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Post  Hinch on Mon Mar 18, 2013 10:05 am

Thought I'd try my hand at a bit of investigative journalism.

http://www.rochdaleonline.co.uk/news-features/2/news-headlines/78711/troubled-charity-sets-up-home-in-rochdale

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Post  Poppyanna555 on Mon Mar 18, 2013 10:28 am

Why does Rochdale always end up with the 'flotsam and jetsam' in our society? the last thing we need in our town is a dubious organisation such as this taking up residence here.

Possibly all the recent negative press about Rochdale has prompted their move here and they believe they could operate here with total impunity!
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Post  cyfrifia on Mon Mar 18, 2013 10:35 am

Well done, Hinch. There are some very iffy so called 'charities' about, that give real charities a bad name. A problem, because people do want to give to genuine charitable causes. 'Charity' scams need exposing for what they are.

Investigative journalism can be hard work, and as you have explained, doesn't necessarily make a wage. It needs doing though, because if many of the things that are wrong were exposed earlier on, scandals would not be allowed to fester for years and do so much damage.

Running a charity scam pays well, so does dealing drugs. Grooming and selling young girls as prostitutes pays, being a corrupt politician seems to have financial advantages, even running a fast food shop without spending anything much on keeping the place clean seems to turn a profit. One way and the other, crime and corruption seem to pay very well in many cases. It would be good if there was a way investigative journalism could be made to pay, there is certainly plenty wants investigating, and the public might be happier if they had more confidence that something effective was being done about all these things.

Due to lack of effective investigative journalism, we have the Jimmy Saville effect, where people get away with things 'in clear view'. Lots of people may have an inkling of what is going on, but until a journalist has the time and inclination to research and piece the facts together, it carries on.

If especially young journalists could be encouraged to do investigative journalism, it might be a very good thing. How can investigative journalism be encouraged, are there any prizes for it?

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Post  Chill37 on Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:01 am

Poppyanna555 wrote:Why does Rochdale always end up with the 'flotsam and jetsam' in our society? the last thing we need in our town is a dubious organisation such as this taking up residence here.

Possibly all the recent negative press about Rochdale has prompted their move here and they believe they could operate here with total impunity!

I have echoed your thoughts with my comment under the story on RO.

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Post  Guest on Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:14 am

Poppyanna555 wrote:Possibly all the recent negative press about Rochdale has prompted their move here and they believe they could operate here with total impunity!


A woman with the same name as the CEO of the 'Agapao' troubled charity, Louise Chicot, also used to work for RMBC, from 2006 to September 2009, in Further Ed and Curriculum Development .. maybe simply a very unfortunate name coincidence !


http://www.rochdaleonline.co.uk/news-features/2/news-headlines/78711/troubled-charity-sets-up-home-in-rochdale.







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Post  Dalelad on Mon Mar 18, 2013 12:14 pm

Poppyanna555 wrote:Why does Rochdale always end up with the 'flotsam and jetsam' in our society? the last thing we need in our town is a dubious organisation such as this taking up residence here.

Possibly all the recent negative press about Rochdale has prompted their move here and they believe they could operate here with total impunity!

Or, alternatively, they live locally.
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Post  Hinch on Mon Mar 18, 2013 12:42 pm

Well, Ms Chicot does describe herself as a 'humanitarian'. God knows there is plenty of scope for 'good works' in the fair borough.

Just been up to the Mary Hindle Centre this morning to take some pix. It looks so forlorn and neglected with a big 'For Sale' sign. It used to be buzzing. The Credit Union was based there, Sure Start, local community organisations and groups held their meetings there. Hinch even attended creative writing classes there. It was a cracking little community centre and very well used. So sad to see it in this condition.

I noticed that the grimy windows are still plastered with Agapao signs. The money from the sale should stay where it belongs; within our local community.

Thanks to the person who tipped me off that they'd moved to Rochdale.

I don't feel too bad about another 'bad news story' for Rochdale. The last story I filed was very positive and upbeat about the Rochdale Skills Event which was attended by 1500 schoolkids who had a bazzing time thanks to a lot of hard work by RDA and others. I got a lovely 'thank you' note from the Chair of RDA plus another one from Emma, Ann Metcalfe's daughter for the piece on her Mum's funeral.. Makes it all worthwhile.
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Post  Hinch on Mon Mar 18, 2013 12:45 pm

cyfrifia wrote:
If especially young journalists could be encouraged to do investigative journalism, it might be a very good thing. How can investigative journalism be encouraged, are there any prizes for it?

Yes, 'Private Eye' does the Paul Foot Award named after one of the UK's most famous investigative journalists. The UK's answer to John Pilger.
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Post  cyfrifia on Mon Mar 18, 2013 1:24 pm

£5,000 to the winner and £1,000 to each of five runners-up. Smile

One of the problems for an aspiring investigative journalist is finding local things that need investigating, still, that shouldn't be too much of a problem. Maybe a prize will come to Rochdale?

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Post  Hinch on Mon Mar 18, 2013 4:52 pm

Hmmm, I see that you can give money to charity by switching your utilities to Operation Telefund, a company with very strong links to Agapao. http://www.agapao.co.uk/news/3/15/Operation-Telefund.html.


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Post  Charly on Mon Mar 18, 2013 4:54 pm

I think I'll be staying with my usual providers thanks.
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Post  teamplayer2 on Mon Mar 18, 2013 4:56 pm

I am a sweet charity. Just send all your bags of sweets to me. I have a terrible sweet tooth. Asked my dentist. affraid
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Post  Hinch on Mon Mar 18, 2013 5:01 pm

Charly wrote:I think I'll be staying with my usual providers thanks.

You'd be safer with Talk Talk!
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Post  Charly on Mon Mar 18, 2013 5:10 pm

I'd like to know a bit more about the connection between the 2 organisations Rolling Eyes
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Post  cyfrifia on Mon Mar 18, 2013 5:52 pm

Merging charity funding through a series of private companies is a specialist branch of accountancy. Similar to money laundering, but a bit easier. It's incredible how much charity money is available for those that know the ropes and how to set up an apparently charitable enterprise. One of the important tricks is to get innocent volunteers to actually do some useful work, as a cover. Cool

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Post  Guest on Mon Mar 18, 2013 9:41 pm

Charly wrote:I'd like to know a bit more about the connection between the 2 organisations Rolling Eyes

Where's that Inspector Hinch Clouseau gone off to then?

Oh well, the CEO-founder of the 'Agapao' charity, (Anne) Louise Chicot, declared the main initiatives and her own interests of: • Agapao International • Re-Loved and • Operation Telefund ... seemingly linked by Director(s), social conscience and raising charity monies for various worthy causes.



It appears to be a complex situation that an MP from Lancs tried very hard to flesh out. I wonder who the landlord is for their Rochdale premises ?

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Post  Hinch on Mon Mar 18, 2013 10:00 pm

All 'knowledge' has to be thoroughly checked before being regurgitated as hard fact.

There is a lot of ground to cover.
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Post  Guest on Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:05 pm

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If especially young journalists could be encouraged to do investigative journalism, it might be a very good thing. How can investigative journalism be encouraged ?


The Centre for Investigative Journalism (CIJ) is a charity that champions critical, in-depth reporting and the defence of the public interest.

It came into being in 2003 to address a deepening crisis in investigative reporting.

Some of the best investigative journalists, editors, activists and filmmakers from all over the world, have spoken and taught at their events. -------------------- They do great Summer Schools



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Post  Hinch on Wed Mar 27, 2013 2:55 pm

http://www.rochdaleonline.co.uk/news-features/2/news-headlines/79012/charity-commission-looking-into-agapao-activities

There is a charity quiz night at Haslingden Cricket Club on April 25th to support these poor kids who have just been dumped. This wonderful lady who I met on Saturday has spent thousands of her own money to support them and spends damned near every waking moment raising funds for them

She raised about £250 doing haircuts for them last Sunday. Should be a good night out.

Maybe we can shame the Charity Commission into doing someting.


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Post  Charly on Wed Mar 27, 2013 4:13 pm

I'd go if she can get something happening in Rochdale,.
I e mailed this charity to ask about their 'working holidays' ...I didn't get a reply
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