Back to basic care.....about time.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-21922998

Its what I learnt, and Hinch too I bet. Knowledge and skill and filling forms are important, but the basic care has got forgotten somewhere.

I used to do Bank work while I was doing my training and it not only gave me valuble hands on experinece, but also an insight that is not always given to student nurses.

I was part of the nursing 2000 intake and we very rarely looked after patients, although we were very proficient at filling in paperwork.

Most of my hands on experience was gained on Bank, but then again I always learned more by getting stuck in.

Charly wrote:Things have changed since then Voddie, my daughters experience (graduated from Salford about 18 months ago) is that she did placements for months at a time and was fully expected to look after patients

Dependant on the placement, though Charly - a student nurse out with us school nurses wont do any hands on care.

A lot of nurses do want to give the care, but lack of staff and all the extra paperwork to do is stopping them doing this.

It is this and previous governments who created the problems and with further cutbacks then we can all see this getting worse. The problem is a lot of these policy makers have never worked in an hospital or they have never seen what the job is all about. Or if they have gone to look at hospitals they may just be walking round with blindfolds or cover their ears with their hands instead of listening to the people who do the job of nursing. Also they do not listen to the patients who have had to complain.

Just how many policy makers have really worked in an hospital or been at the front of nursing? Just how many are more qualified as accountants?

It is quite simple Hinch is it not! Those who are qualified nurses and I mean QUALIFIED like your good self are the very people who should have more say in the delivery of training and not some pen pusher and a qualified accountant who look more at figures than the training of nurses.

It is those that are qualified and working in the front line who should be asked what is needed. I know it is qualified nurses who deliver training and do the teaching but they seem to be tied up depending on cost etc and by someone who works in an office and never seen on the floor where the real work is done by the qualified nursing staff.

For some reasons known to themselves the managers seem to want to tie the trained nurses up in extra and repeated paperwork all the time than letting them get on with the job they want and love to do in most cases.

Charly wrote:

nickih wrote:
Dependant on the placement, though Charly - a student nurse out with us school nurses wont do any hands on care.

I was meaning on the hospital wards which is what it seems to be all about.
I was not aware that school nurses actually did 'hands on' care since nitty nora was stopped

That was my point - some placements don't have hands on care. The only clinical stuff school nurses do i immunisations in school. A student can spend weeks with us but do no hands on stuff. He or she will arrange spoke placements whilst out with us that might or might not include some hands on stuff.