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Post  Hinch on Thu May 02, 2013 1:16 pm

Admitted 14 charges including a 9 year old girl. To be sentenced next month.

Rolf Harris, Freddie Starr, Bill Roach, Jim Davidson and many others must be quaking in their boots.
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Post  johnb on Thu May 02, 2013 7:51 pm

Innocent until proven guilty...
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Post  Hinch on Thu May 02, 2013 8:06 pm

And good old Fred Talbot.

All perfectly innocent of course but to apply the JB litmus test, how many of us would let one of these babysit our kids or grandkids; CRB checked or not?

Applying the same test of course, Michael Jackson, Hitler, Himmler and Fred West were all too perfectly innocent. None of 'em tried and found guilty.


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Post  cyfrifia on Thu May 02, 2013 8:34 pm

Commenting on radio 4 'The world at One' today, about the verdict on Stuart Hall, whom she used to work with, Linda McDougall said "If you look on twitter now, I think this is going to be a real problem, people are tremendously hostile to the old, and Stuart hall will be regarded with even more horror because he is now so old. I will probably be regarded with horror because I'm so old and speaking out."

Apparently being old, in itself, is regarded with some distaste and even horror. Does this explain a few things about the way older people are treated nowadays?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01s4rv4

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Post  Hinch on Thu May 02, 2013 8:44 pm

Well, the government hardly lead by example in this respect by giving it us where the sun don't shine on pensions, travel passes and a 'work till you drop dead you old b*astard' culture.

Anyway, I've found a way to get some of my own back by getting them to fork out for my gastric bypass and two total knee replacements..
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Post  Poppyanna555 on Tue May 07, 2013 8:08 am

And now Jimmy Tarbuck has been arrested and so on and on it goes.....
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Post  davelee on Tue May 07, 2013 10:20 am

There could be a hell of a pantomime in Strangeways this Christmas.
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Post  Hinch on Tue May 07, 2013 10:24 am

They'll all be fighting to play 'Principal Boy' Dave.

"He's right behind you!"

"Oh no he isn't."
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Post  teamplayer2 on Tue May 07, 2013 4:15 pm

No joke for the victims though is it. If they are all true.
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Post  Hinch on Tue May 07, 2013 4:36 pm

It will be interesting to see how many actually appear in court and how many cough up, are found innocent or guilty etc. There is another option available and that is a caution and signing the Sex Offenders Register.

Something like this happened to The Who's Pete Townshend when he was found with various photographic studies of kiddies on his PC.

I am slightly bemused by all the stuff coming out on a daily basis. I don't quite know what to make of it all. I think that the groupie phenomenon of the 60's, 70's and 80's will provide some interesting insights into bad boy behavior.

I think that Gary Glitter, Jonathan King and Jimmy Saville might just prove to be the thin end of a very thick wedge.

Access to an endless supply of young, attractive and unbelievably compliant and inventive girls seemed to be a great motivator for choosing rock music as a career.
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Post  teamplayer2 on Tue May 07, 2013 4:49 pm

Looks like all this free love of the 60s and 70s and the freedom of self expression on wards from the 80s was just an excuse for the perverts to use it as a cover.

Most of them caught or allegations made turn out to be famous people so far.
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Post  Hinch on Tue May 07, 2013 6:53 pm

Even local pub bands had their followers of eager young groupies.

You didn't even need to be able to play an instrument. Just walk into the gig with a Vox AC30 and the word would go out, "He's with the band."

Amazing what sort of gymnastics could be performed in the back of a Bedford 15 cwt loaded with amps, guitars and drum kit.

I'm sure that Atlas will have fond memories.

Never did any of that underage stuff but there was plenty of it about for those who chose to play with fire.

Some are finding that it's pay-up time for their 'free' love.
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Post  cyfrifia on Tue May 07, 2013 8:54 pm

teamplayer2 wrote:Looks like all this free love of the 60s and 70s and the freedom of self expression on wards from the 80s was just an excuse for the perverts to use it as a cover.

Most of them caught or allegations made turn out to be famous people so far.

Just shows what poor taste in celebrities the British public have. Smile

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Post  Atlas on Thu May 09, 2013 12:43 am

Indeed Hinch. However the age differences were much closer together than most of what we speak here.
Most of the male members of the bands in my days were between 15 and 18 - as were most of their 'followers'. Such liasons were not 'viewed' as 'too unhealthy' as things went. The girls never tended to be more than two or three years younger than the boys. Not quite the same thing at all really. A few of us - i.e. the managers and agents were in our twenties and we did sometimes 'cash in' on what was available. But we did have enough sense not to go 'baby snatching' as it was known. Wink Very Happy
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Post  teamplayer2 on Sat May 11, 2013 6:31 am

Of course those that brag about their conquest and they did know about the baby snatching that went on. Also they knew of the people who did this they had a duty to report it to the police.
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Post  Hinch on Sat May 11, 2013 10:07 am

And the Dibble would have done what exactly? SFA as they did with Saville and even employed him in various campaigns.

Mind you, I see in a report on today's Northern Voices that they have had their own inquiry into this and have cleared themselves. Now there's a surprise!

http://northernvoicesmag.blogspot.co.uk/2013/05/savile-west-yorkshire-police-clear.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed:+northernvoices+(Northern+Voices)!

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Post  Atlas on Sun May 12, 2013 12:54 am

Sometimes your comments TP2 are naive in the extreme. Did you live in the same world as the rest of us. Weren't you a politician at some time or other. Do the two things go together I ask myself? affraid Shocked
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Post  teamplayer2 on Sun May 12, 2013 11:48 am

Do you see the point Atlas. Some people brag about the times and their conquest. Also the times were not a proud period looking at the number of women and men who are now coming out how they were assaulted at this period. All the perverts who used the period as cover to carry out their perverted ways.

Also the number of people who may have known it happened but failed to do anything. As long as they were making money they would not rock the boat. We all know it has happened in one way or other for years. The most famous people at this time in the show business world seemed to have been protected because they were famous. Nothing naive about it. Seems the authorities and other people who managed the show business world at the time knew it went on and did nothing. Ruining the lives of a lot of young people at the time and going through this most of their lives until being brave enough now to speak out.

Same with the church and in some cases politicians. Take the Cyril Smith fiasco for one.

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Post  Atlas on Mon May 13, 2013 12:44 am

But that doesn't change the realities of the day does it! We all have to 'live' in our own times and all that such brings us. That it was a disgrace and should never have happened changes nothing, What changes society and ourselves is evolution - e.g. the good old days as an expression only lends itself to that which was 'good' and always excludes that which was evil as a matter of course. We would all wish we could return and right the wrongs as we now discover them, that which was done to us as a matter of course, but we can't - because that's not real life. We move on and hope that the future will bring better things always aware that these times, today and tomorrow, will hide its own horrors which will surface in another 40 years from now. Welcome to reality. And may 'your' God go with you. affraid Smile
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Post  teamplayer2 on Tue May 14, 2013 11:04 pm

Do you only come out at night Atlas. What a Face affraid
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Post  Atlas on Wed May 15, 2013 12:05 am

But nay and thrice nay fellow traveller. T'is well beyond the crow of the cock when abroad I muster and twix then and the early song-bird to hear by the paling of dawn my bed do I take for a few blissfull slumbers.
Does your query have that satisfaction so quainted indeed? Wink
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Post  Guest on Mon Jun 17, 2013 3:51 pm


Stuart Hall jailed for 15 months for sex assaults.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-22932222 

   In the dock today is a frightened and bewildered 83-year-old man answering for the touching - no more, no less - of all of 13 ... victims, over a quarter of a century ago”
End Quote,  Crispin Aylett .... Hall's barrister

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Post  Hinch on Mon Jun 17, 2013 6:10 pm

In other words, a plea that if you evade detection and capture for long enough, there would be no case to answer.

Glad that the Learned Judge was having no truck with this strange line of argument.

Perhaps Hall might wish to debate this interesting line of mitigation with his new housemates such as Dale Creggan, Kenneth Noyes, Charlie Bronson et al?

Not a good time to play the joker in the manner of 'Its A Knockout' methinks! 

Take care in the shower Stuart.
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Post  Chill37 on Mon Jun 17, 2013 9:17 pm

Only 15 months?

Bet he will be out in 8 or so months

Pathetic sentence.

Should be jailed for the rest of his natural life.

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Post  Hinch on Mon Jun 17, 2013 10:15 pm

Seven and a half months Chill. He could go out earlier with a tag of course.
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