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Post  Hinch on Tue Jan 28, 2014 2:58 pm


Interesting piece of street theatre today in Yorkshire Street. Apologies in advance for use of expletives.

A young couple with a toddler in a pushchair were having a flaming row outside B&M Bargains.   As the altercation became ever more heated, the female rounded on the male and screamed in her broadest Rochdale tones, "Listen Darren, how the f*** do you expect me to push the buggy and eat my f****** chips at the same time?"
Is this truly the language of Shakespeare? 

Highly entertaining.   A living episode of 'Shameless' right here on our own streets!
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Post  Poppyanna555 on Tue Jan 28, 2014 6:47 pm



Ha ha....yer couldn't make it up!

I witnessed a similar carry on outside my local Bookmakers at the end of last year.   A young woman with a toddler shivering in her pushchair was waiting for her partner, when he came out to her he made it clear at his displeasure at being dragged off the slot machine he was playing.  At this, the young woman replied "Why are you being like this? i'm really sorry babe, but SHE is f****n p****d wet through"
....SAD!
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Post  Old Regulator on Tue Jan 28, 2014 7:53 pm

Hinch wrote:   Interesting piece of street theatre today in Yorkshire Street. Apologies in advance for use of expletives.
A young couple with a toddler in a pushchair were having a flaming row outside B&M Bargains.   As the altercation became ever more heated, the female rounded on the male and screamed in her broadest Rochdale tones, "Listen Darren, how the f*** do you expect me to push the buggy and eat my f****** chips at the same time?"
Is this truly the language of Shakespeare? 
Highly entertaining.   A living episode of 'Shameless' right here on our own streets!


Come off it Hinch, at least she was eating chips not one of Greggs saus F****** rolls.  The one that gets me is when the recipient of the prose is on the other end of the phone and the ******** speaker is on a bus, I kid you not.

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Post  Hinch on Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:04 pm



Maybe one of the uses for part of the Town Hall could be to have a Scrote Behaviour Modification Unit in the old cellars? A few judiciously placed electrodes, some cattle prods, a bit of water-boarding etc could soon witness an improvement, along with a bit of toe-nail pulling and some of the other methods formerly used by the Inquisition.
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Post  Old Regulator on Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:21 pm


Ah, but what if these scrotes happen to be foul-mouthed councillors passing a cheery haloo on Cheetham Street?     Surely their exalted place in Rochdale’s Civic culture would deserve punishment worthy of the Mikado?

Note to self, add punishment to fit crime for basement on Town Hall thread.

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Post  Hinch on Wed Jan 29, 2014 10:14 am



Surely these issues are thoroughly investigated and dealt with firmly by the local and regional party machine Old Regulator or are you maliciously suggesting otherwise?
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Post  Atlas on Thu Jan 30, 2014 1:00 am

Hinch wrote:

Maybe one of the uses for part of the Town Hall could be to have a Scrote Behaviour Modification Unit in the old cellars?  A few judiciously placed electrodes, some cattle prods, a bit of water-boarding etc could soon witness an improvement, along with a bit of toe-nail pulling and some of the other methods formerly used by the Inquisition.


And by every other countries Security Establishments ever since. Wink
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Post  Guest on Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:04 am


Street life, or not ? ?

Petrus and Sanctuary Trust dispute council data suggesting there were only 28 homeless people in the Rochdale borough


‘Council data, subsequently used in a government report published in December, suggests there were only 28 homeless people in the Rochdale borough in April last year. Two Rochdale homelessness charities have described the figure as ‘ ridiculous  ’
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http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/local-news/petrus-sanctuary-trust-dispute-council-6669387


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Post  Hinch on Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:14 am



What a bloody joke! They've just thought of a number, divided by 10 and presented it as the answer. There were over 40 in Providence House alone before RMBC forced its closure.

RMBC being very disingenuous. I suspect that they class homelessness very differently to Petrus et al. There are lots of sofa-surfers, for instance who won't be in their figures.

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Post  anexium on Thu Feb 06, 2014 4:27 pm




28 people? Really? If that's the case why does RMBC currently have a staff of 30 in its Homelessness team?


It'd be interesting to see the rationale and methodologies that brought about that number.

Edit: From the MEN report -
"A spokesperson for Rochdale council, which provided the figure for the Department of Communities and Local Government report, said: “The information shows on April 1 2013 there were 28 households on the waiting list to whom we had established a statutory duty to rehouse." (emphasis is mine)

Seems that the data was being used either wrongly or out of context.
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Post  Hinch on Thu Feb 06, 2014 5:23 pm



Aide memoire :-

Just over 18 months ago, according to House of Commons figures, homelessness in the Borough had risen by 200% in just over a year!

Now it seems, two options are on the table:

1, They deserve a national award for resolving this issue so speedily.

2. They are lying.

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Post  Hinch on Fri Feb 07, 2014 8:44 am



Homeless figures up to 2011, provided by all English councils to the Department for Communities and Local Government, were deemed to include people living in hostels and shelters along with those temporarily residing with friends or family on sofas or spare rooms – according to the official House of Commons Library source.

For 2011, Rochdale council returned a figure of 160 “Homeless” to the Government.

So... how the hell have RMBC 'achieved' this miraculous reduction? I think that the only possible answer is "lies, damned lies and statistics." Paves the way for some searching questions to be put to Labour candidates in the May elections.


Why aren't they shouting this 82.5% 'reduction' from the rooftops?


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Post  cyfrifia on Fri Feb 07, 2014 10:15 am

Building upon recently developed mathematical foundations in accountancy and economics, Local government has developed an entirely new method of counting?

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Post  keithatrochdale on Fri Feb 07, 2014 10:19 am

cyfrifia wrote:Building upon recently developed mathematical foundations in accountancy and economics, Local government has developed an entirely new method of counting?

Would that be;

One for me, one for you

Two for me, one for you

Three for me, one for you

etc..........
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Post  Hinch on Fri Feb 07, 2014 3:58 pm



They probably sent a junior clerical officer out to Yorkshire Street with a clipboard to ask the first 100 people s/he saw if they were homeless and s/he came back with the figure 28.

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Post  cyfrifia on Fri Feb 07, 2014 6:29 pm


Could it be that the homeless and disadvantaged of Rochdale are being lured away to the reportedly excellent 'Red Door' in Bury?
http://www.burytimes.co.uk/news/10983900.Axed_Bury_homeless_service_returns_thanks_to_new_benefactors/


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Post  Guest on Fri Feb 07, 2014 11:25 pm

cyfrifia wrote:   Could it be that the homeless and disadvantaged of Rochdale are being lured away to the reportedly excellent 'Red Door' in Bury?
http://www.burytimes.co.uk/news/10983900.Axed_Bury_homeless_service_returns_thanks_to_new_benefactors/        

Cyfri: and that could be seen as an injudicious hypothesis resulting from an Internet search.

If you really want to know about homelessness here in Rochdale and the figures involved, a good starting point could be the Rochdale-based charity Petrus and the Sanctuary Trust.

As mature organisations, they undertake some number tracking and have already responded in the press about RMBC's reported number of 'homelessness' in last year's Government account .  

 Crying or Very sad Should someone need advice on homelessness from RMBC in person, their Homelessness and prevention department  is currently advertised as open every weekday afternoon 1pm-4pm at Number One Riverside - where one is asked to report to the reception desk at the front of the building.     Yer ...

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Post  Atlas on Fri Feb 14, 2014 12:39 am




Anything within reach is a target for 'cretins'.   Perhaps a little 'forethought' and a less vulnerable site for the sign may have been prudent. It could have been simply vandalism or, more to the point, a political statement. We have amongst us many who don't have our values or culture and will strive to cause dissent in any way they can. We haven't yet begun to suffer for our perceived sins - but we will. Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
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Post  cyfrifia on Fri Feb 14, 2014 10:11 am

"Coun Alan McCarthy, the council’s lead member for the armed forces, said: “On behalf of the council and the people of Heywood, we condemn this despicable act of mindless vandalism to the street name signs honouring Lance Corporal Stephen Shaw MC. “This shows complete disrespect to not just him but all the fallen soldiers from Rochdale borough and the rest of the UK. “We will endeavour to repair or replace the signs as soon as possible."

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/herywood-military-hero-street-signs-6707549

War memorials have come under attack, which is upsetting. It seems they need to be more defensible, but that is difficult to arrange for public spaces.

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Post  Hinch on Fri Feb 14, 2014 1:30 pm



I strongly suspect that this was not 'ordinary' vandalism' but was driven by those with deeper and more sinister motives. At the end of the day, these are just bits of cheap alloy. Should be easy enough to replace or resite.

It was a bit inevitable I suppose, but has much to do with the times we live in.

Am surprised that shops selling Action Man toys haven't been targeted. Pathetic.


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Post  cyfrifia on Fri Feb 14, 2014 2:02 pm


All across England, perhaps more so than in Scotland and Wales, there has been a lot of damage to war memorials, starting with years of neglect, then removal of anything metal in the scrap metal theft that swept the country, plus theft of stone. All this and more targeted attacks. Also more damage to cemeteries and gravestones. It tells of a rather disturbed nation, in many ways unprepared to defend itself. Complicated reasons behind it all perhaps. Difficult to know what to make of it, but it seems to be some expression of problematic attitudes, a general sense of instability.

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Post  Chill37 on Fri Feb 14, 2014 2:05 pm



Or, a bunch of lowlifes nicking everything and anything with no respect.  That as and when caught, get a laughable sentence


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Post  cyfrifia on Fri Feb 14, 2014 4:52 pm


That's a quick and perhaps accurate way of summing it up, Chill. Maybe it's more complex. Going back, it was common to see old gravestones broken up and used as hardcore. Then neglect of memorials, as though society wanted to forget.

http://www.messengernewspapers.co.uk/news/9541539.Gravestone_mystery_is_solved/

More recently, teenagers breaking gravestones, and it turning out to  be the gravestones of their families. Lorries from Europe filling up with scrap metal, including bronze plaques from war memorials. Metal statues on war memorials replaced with resin copies, British memorials abroad destroyed with hammers. So it goes on, more recently attacks on anything representing the military.

There are some odd attitudes going on really, for so much to be destroyed. Seems more than mindless vandalism, although yes, that's part of the picture.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/article6565570.ece/ALTERNATES/w460/Flag%2Bwaver%3A%2BGilmour%2Bat%2Bthe%2BCenotaph.jpg



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