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Post  keithatrochdale Sun Feb 02, 2014 10:32 pm

Hi just noticed that you cannot comment about an article on ROL, how long ago was this stopped?
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Post  Atlas Mon Feb 03, 2014 1:26 am




I didn't know it had been!  However the greatest consolation you have is knowing that here on Rochdale Talk you will at least get a fair shake of the shilling. affraid
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Post  Dalelad Mon Feb 03, 2014 9:12 am



I noticed it last week some time. Shame really as I always enjoy reading them. Perhaps it's down to danger of libel and the resultant claims that come in.

As Atlas says, we've still got this forum though, with no assets so perhaps less danger of being sued? Wouldn't like to test that one though!
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Post  Admin Mon Feb 03, 2014 9:34 am


Libel is a legal minefield but, generally speaking, posters are personally responsible for their posts not the ISP. However, many posters are very naive and legally incorrect when they think that by wrapping up lies about individuals as 'personal opinion', this is free speech and not defamatory.

It is not defamatory to state that you think that the council is a shambles. However, if you say that a named councillor is corrupt and untrustworthy and you believe he/she is a crook but try to say that this is merely your personal opinion, you'd better have deep pockets. Sue, Grabbite and Runne will be onto you like s*** off the proverbial shovel.

There are lots of other legal constraints.You are entitled to hold strong views about immigration, but if you frame these in such a way that they constitute incitement to racial hatred, your supposed entitlement to voice your opinions will not get you very far in court.

Always best to err well on the side of caution. We do not and never have had the right to free speech. Read Geoffrey Robertson ' Media Law' for more insights.
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Post  Chill37 Mon Feb 03, 2014 12:08 pm

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I didn't know it had been!  However the greatest consolation you have is knowing that here on Rochdale Talk you will at least get a fair shake of the shilling. affraid

Yep along with more allocation of letters!

Over on RO you were limited to 500 charecters!

Still on here we can post and dicuss with out being labelled with the buzzwords like 'negative' on the numerous FB pages. So gives me a breather from being targetted!  Very Happy 

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Post  Dalelad Mon Feb 03, 2014 12:21 pm

It is easy to label posts and posters as negative, but it is also just as easy to be negative. I do get fed up when I read something I feel is good news only to scroll down and see critical comments, often referencing something else that has little to do with the subject, but which is being used as 'evidence' that, for instance, the council is rubbish so the little bit of goods news can be ignored.
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Post  Hinch Mon Feb 03, 2014 12:30 pm



I thing that there is a world of difference between negativity and criticism. Criticism is usually an essential prerequisite to being constructive. A simple fact but one often missed by those who interpret anything other than gushing praise and adulation as negativity.

Negativity usually comprises of endless moaning from people who lack real critical or analytical skills who seldom, if ever, propose solutions.

The Facebook pages on Rochdale are full of those who see negativity in anyone questioning the status quo.


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Post  Chill37 Mon Feb 03, 2014 1:25 pm

For example a few comments were levelled at me for simply discussing the type of railings that should adorn the tops of the walls on the new river opening.

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Post  Hinch Mon Feb 03, 2014 1:32 pm


As you recall Chill, I came off that page for exactly that reason. I am 63 now and life is far too short attempting to defend myself against the sort of morons you come up against on pages like that.

When you can't have a reasoned discussions on such piffling issues without running the gauntlet of cretins like that, there really is no point.

I can stand my ground with anyone but Jeez, it is just so mind-numbingly pointless.

I was going to pop in my favourite Fawlty Towers quote about "rancorous coiffered old sows," but thought better of it.

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Post  Chill37 Mon Feb 03, 2014 1:45 pm

Yep fully agree Hinch.


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Post  Chill37 Mon Feb 03, 2014 9:01 pm



Got my name in pixels !!!







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Post  Atlas Tue Feb 04, 2014 1:09 am



I'm not sure that ROL are doing themselves any favours at all by restricting characters and now removing comments. I remember it starting up with the forum (although I was a later joiner) and it was only through its avenue for discussion that I went on the site at all. It's the start of slippery slopes (ref Roch Ob) when free comment are removed or selective comments are only printed.

It's in danger of becoming part of the 'Establishment'. Oh dearie dearie me - Sad Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
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Post  Hinch Tue Feb 04, 2014 7:17 am

One of the things; in fact THE thing that attracted me to RO was the interactive aspect via its forum and news comment.
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Post  Dalelad Tue Feb 04, 2014 12:38 pm

Yes, I was the same. Started on the forum and then went to the news sections from there.
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