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Post  cyfrifia Tue Nov 03, 2015 10:41 am

Are the people of Rochdale really concerned about these socialist type ideas and ideals? They see a bit abstract. Practical matters would seem more directly relevant. Not everybody has time for eating insects in the jungle.

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Post  Atlas Tue Nov 03, 2015 2:27 pm

Of course they are not concerned. Politics (or to be more precise - life styles) are only relevant at polling time. The rest of the time they are not even thought about. Joe Stalin knew that and so did Churchill. Make sure your promises sound real and are good and that you have the intention of battering the bastards that went before for all the sins perpetrated upon you and yours and as how ridiculous it may collectively all sound - your going to vote for them. Socialist dogma is simple 'we the people for the people and fair dinkum all round'. Total crap of course. None of it ever works because it's based upon central control and there's never enough to go all round when the top dogs have taken more than their fair share. Ergo - a minority will have to die off (one way or another) to enable the concept to work. Fine unless you just happen to be one of that minority. Only money really motivates. Therefore those that control the money rule - as always. Democracy isn't a tangible unit. It comes from man's desire to have a good life. The freedom to participate on an equal basis regardless of how unequal the reality. And it cannot be beaten or removed by alternative factions in the long run. Other 'politics' will always fail - eventually. Which is why socialism will never prevail for very long. Only an ignorant fool would believe otherwise. Are Rochdalians' ignorant fools? Most are until they grow up and learn the realities of life. After which they usually plumb for the middle road - whatever that is at the time. Does that answer your question - Wink Wink Wink Wink Rolling Eyes Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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Post  cyfrifia Tue Nov 03, 2015 2:37 pm

Very nicely. But was it wise for Simon to miss the opportunity to involve Ant and Dec? Should a man be prepared to eat insects if it's for the good of the town?

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Post  Atlas Wed Nov 04, 2015 2:21 pm

No he should not. He should eat them if it's for his own good with the town coming a good second.
Let's face it. Regardless of how well he does or does not for the town they will sling him out eventually in favour of some other 'bright spark'. It's man's way -! Ask Churchill -!
Meantime he should continue doing all that he can in any way that he can and taking his salary. If anyone thinks that 'man' is worthy of sacrifice then think again. Only for your nearest and dearest should any semblence of sacrifice be given - and then only after deep and logical thought. Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Mad Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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Post  cyfrifia Thu Nov 05, 2015 8:54 pm

Very true, appearing on the Ant and Dec show is something that should not happen to anyone.

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Post  Atlas Fri Nov 06, 2015 5:09 pm




Well that's only applicable to so called celebrities. Simon is a member of Parliament and thus hardly a celeb of any kind. Nor should he be. His duty is to represent his constituents and apply himself to political matters on their behalf not flim-flam around on stupid lack lustre television programmes.

If he wanted to be famous and well liked in society then I would suggest he apply himself to the job at hand and make his position that way. Tch. Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
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Post  cyfrifia Fri Nov 06, 2015 6:08 pm

Quite. Karen Danczuk might be a popular contestant on 'get her out of there', but would she be able to eat the insects? I've never watched the show. Are the insects alive, or cooked?

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Post  Atlas Sat Nov 07, 2015 3:31 pm


I believe they are of the cooked variety and taste a little like raw veal - that's cockroaches by the way - I too never watch reality TV or whatever it is called these days. Gives me the hump having to put up with the damned adverts for them in-between my relatively decent programme viewing never mind anything else. Whatever Karen does is of no consequence. She isn't the MP for Rochdale. Simon is and should act like he is. As for 'wives' being important for 'husbands' careerer's I'm afraid that criteria went out with the passing of the 20th century. It no longer matters for no one really cares any more. The morals of the fish-wife to the lady are fused into an attitude of ' so what the **** ' by all strata's - and perhaps that's where it should be.
Cut out the bull-shit. Say it as it is. Let's get on with it - regardless of the cost to humanity. Hey ho -Wink Wink Wink Wink Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
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Post  cyfrifia Sat Nov 07, 2015 7:02 pm


On present population trends, if we insist on staying alive much longer we will have to eat insects. The vegetarian option will be plankton.

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Post  Atlas Sun Nov 08, 2015 2:49 pm

Plankton? Is that for 'planks'? Shouldn't little Miss Rochdale be on a diet of that? Yon Karen person?
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Post  cyfrifia Wed Nov 11, 2015 4:11 pm

Mr. Danczuk doesn't want to fly to China in economy class and stay four days. It would take most people a few days to recover from 11 hours in a stress position.

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Post  johnb Thu Nov 12, 2015 12:32 pm

China flights are not that bad...
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Post  Atlas Thu Nov 12, 2015 4:48 pm

To hell with all that. The 10k saving on him staying at home outweighs all other considerations thank you. Mad Mad Mad
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Post  Atlas Sat Nov 21, 2015 2:50 pm

I think it goes without too much saying that ALL MP's will, given the opportunity, take ALL they can get. It's a short term job ( a bit like football) and not much of a future unless you lack principals, a conscience and have an amoral streak a half mile wide - oh - forgot thick-skinned.
The only criteria I have is 'Doe's the person have a knack for publicity and will that keep the person (and consequently his constituency) in the picture? It's that which helps his constituents in the long run. Smith did it with his 'bulk' and 'big mouth' (regardless of all that has followed which I'm afraid in his case negated everything he ever did - Sadly). You can't pick and choose in that game. If you get an effective MP you're damn lucky. It's often better to stick with what you have than try and better yourself. You could come very badly unstuck. Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Very Happy
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