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Post  cyfrifia on Thu Apr 13, 2017 11:53 pm

Why they do it is a mystery, but, humans do make civilisations, with mixed results. Are we living in the decline of one at the moment? Things seem to be hanging together more or less, but the zeitgeist is uncertainty. Perhaps european type civilisation being under attack raises the question of how important it's survival is, if and how we might like it to develop.

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Post  Atlas on Fri Apr 14, 2017 3:12 pm

I answered this and the connection dropped -. Will come back on it tomorrow.
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Post  Atlas on Sun Apr 16, 2017 3:24 pm

As the world gets smaller, in terms of distances/time, and trade becomes global, as in cyber/trade it is inevitable the mixes, tribes, will become cosmopolitan in nature regardless of efforts to 'stem' the complete melange. Business will swoop on the most able regardless of tribal consideration and governments will acquiesce in accordance with their taxable contributions to the power structures and so - - - - - - .
A new mixture will emerge over the coming decades and be far more diverse in its culture and beliefs than any that have gone before. That divergence will inevitably be a cross-section of previous cultures, a new mixture either more secular or less so depending on the final mix. You used the word 'society' - that can mean whatever you class it to be a the time of your research. Society just means any group of people brought together through mutual interests. Society is what makes it and what the participants make of it.

Western society is whatever it is at the time of reference as it is continuously in flux.

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Post  cyfrifia on Wed Sep 27, 2017 10:31 am

Headaches and carnage seem to be the situation in the middle east. We tend to become a bit jaded and perhaps cynical about news reports, but it does seem I.S. is being driven out, many killed, but also many moving to, or returning to, Europe. Which counties in Europe will get the worst of that, I wonder?

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Post  Atlas on Wed Sep 27, 2017 3:38 pm

One shouldn't confuse irrational immigrants with home-grown idiots - -. So - - taking the two differences aside and beginning with the 'immigrant' (whether that be in the guise of a refugee or otherwise) it seems that whichever country takes in the most 'unvetted' or 'at face value' will be the country to suffer the most. Germany seems to be a likely candidate as time passes. But with freedom of movement it could be any. The home-grown idiot will be as a result of numerous things, deprivation, isolation, education and integration. Whichever country does those best will suffer the least. Which means it could very well be us here in the U.K. We are hopeless at all four. Does that give you much more confidence to carry on - - - ? Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
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