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Different rules?
Why are there different punishments for the same crime?
http://news.sky.com/story/995338/facebook-man-spared-jail-over-comments
http://www.thisislancashire.co.uk/news/9972514.Chorley_man_jailed_over_offensive_April_Facebook_comments/
http://news.sky.com/story/995338/facebook-man-spared-jail-over-comments
http://www.thisislancashire.co.uk/news/9972514.Chorley_man_jailed_over_offensive_April_Facebook_comments/
Charly- Spaceship Commander
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Re: Different rules?
Since neither comments have (thankfully) been published, it is impossible forus todetermine the relative seriousness for ourselves.
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Re: Different rules?
Some of them were published in the articles
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Re: Different rules?
There may be differences which depend on a number of factors. In no particular order:
Age of defendant. Early guilty plea. Remorse or not. Previous offences of a similar nature. Whether defendant was subject to a bail condition at the time. Racially aggravated. On a breach of the peace order at the time. Mitigation due to mental state. Prevelance of a type of offence in a locality.
I am not saying any of these were pertinent to the individual but they are some of the reasons why people committing similar offences get different sentences.
Age of defendant. Early guilty plea. Remorse or not. Previous offences of a similar nature. Whether defendant was subject to a bail condition at the time. Racially aggravated. On a breach of the peace order at the time. Mitigation due to mental state. Prevelance of a type of offence in a locality.
I am not saying any of these were pertinent to the individual but they are some of the reasons why people committing similar offences get different sentences.
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Re: Different rules?
Thanks for the explanation Past It, reading both articles it doesn't seem to differ much in what they wrote, the one who got community service still maintains he didnt think what he wrote was offensive, I suppose the families of the 6 dead soldiers may think differently.
There is no excuse for either of them getting away with writing what they did, just that one got prison, one didnt.
There is no excuse for either of them getting away with writing what they did, just that one got prison, one didnt.
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Re: Different rules?
Sentencing remarks of District Judge Goodwin
http://www.judiciary.gov.uk/Resources/JCO/Documents/Judgments/azhar-ahmed-sentencing-remarks-09102012.pdf
He got off far too lightly in my opinion.
http://www.judiciary.gov.uk/Resources/JCO/Documents/Judgments/azhar-ahmed-sentencing-remarks-09102012.pdf
He got off far too lightly in my opinion.
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Re: Different rules?
Can you find the sentencing remarks for the other case Sparky?
Apparently one of his comments was 'who in their right mind would abduct a ginger kid?'
I have 2 ginger kids and have never thought of it as offensive to be so called.
His other remarks were sick jokes from Sickapedia, I dont know what they were
Apparently one of his comments was 'who in their right mind would abduct a ginger kid?'
I have 2 ginger kids and have never thought of it as offensive to be so called.
His other remarks were sick jokes from Sickapedia, I dont know what they were
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Re: Different rules?
Tried to get them for you Charly but unfortunately it was not possible:
"I'm afraid sentencing remarks aren't available in Michael Woods case - it's very unusual to have them in Mags' Court cases." Judicial Office.
"I'm afraid sentencing remarks aren't available in Michael Woods case - it's very unusual to have them in Mags' Court cases." Judicial Office.
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Thanks anyway Sparky, I did try myself but got nowhere, I thought you must have the knack or something
I would have liked to know what was said to him so I could compare the two cases.
I would have liked to know what was said to him so I could compare the two cases.
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Slightly different case but did anyone see on the news about the police officer who was charged and convicted of physically abusing a 15 yo boy? He was sentenced to jail time, but suspended. Practically legalised thuggery by some members of the police.
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Re: Different rules?
Back to the two cases, both despicable acts. Regarding the case of the lad rubbishing the soldiers, very wrong indeed, he was targeting his anger of the killing of innocent people in Pakistan/Afghanistan, at the wrong people. His anger should be targeted at the politicians who send the soldiers over there, and who order the bombing of people by the cowardly means of drones, not the soldiers who are fighting a lost cause and losing their lives for it. It is ok to oppose military operations but it is not ok in my opinion to have ago at the soldiers, especially when making the ultimate sacrifice of death.
Personally I do not think that either case warranted prison but instead a long period of community service would be more beneficial to society especially as non of them are dangerous or violent people.
Personally I do not think that either case warranted prison but instead a long period of community service would be more beneficial to society especially as non of them are dangerous or violent people.
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UP THE DALE wrote:Slightly different case but did anyone see on the news about the police officer who was charged and convicted of physically abusing a 15 yo boy? He was sentenced to jail time, but suspended. Practically legalised thuggery by some members of the police.
I saw the CCTV video on the news just now. This happened in March of last year and it seems strange that the other three "laughing constables" shown on it haven't already been disciplined. Sick or what? The defence lawyer stated in court that PC Hudson had now quit-resigned from the GMP, before the judge announced he was giving him a 'suspended' sentence. I wonder just how long he was suspended for on his full salary, before he resigned. There was no order made for cost or compensation. The length of time it takes for cases to go to Trial seems to be a real problem.
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Indeed, scandalous amount of time. He should have been sacked, but I suppose if he resigns he will be able to keep his pension. Would he have kept his pension if sacked? Amazing how quickly justice is served when it's an ordinary person or youth, but when it's an officer of the law justice takes ages allowing the officer to receive his salary for all that time. All are supposed to be equal under the law, but it's just not the case.
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