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Post  cyfrifia on Fri Feb 17, 2017 2:03 pm

https://www.rochdaleonline.co.uk/news-features/2/news-headlines/108169/parents-blame-short-rental-tenancies-for-making-their-children-unsettled

The way the housing market is arranged at the moment, with many people renting on short term leases is, a recipe for disintegrating society. Evil or Very Mad Lots of problems, serious problems, long term problems, expensive problems, complicated problems, no solutions.

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Post  Atlas on Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:44 pm

Yes there is. Build a million 'structured' houses over the next four years. It's very simple. But they (the people that could bring it about) won't because it would mean their own assets would de-value and the country's economy which is based upon property values instead of economic growth would also be de-valued - and - it would mean allowing the country's finances to be partially governed by local authorities which was something Maggie stopped in the 80's. There are no such things as problems. Only solutions. But only the bravest go down that road. Rolling Eyes
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Post  cyfrifia on Fri Feb 17, 2017 7:33 pm

Fazakerly.

The combined and careful efforts of the financial brains of the City of London, members of all political parties of both houses of the mother of Parliaments, a legal system which is the envy of the world, huge building firms using the smartest technology, building societies established over centuries with the highest standards of social responsibility, all have worked tirelessly for many many years to create the destructive fiasco in housing that we see today.
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Post  Atlas on Sat Feb 18, 2017 3:06 pm

Indeed. T'is all about money and profits for fat-cats - and for leaner cats to become fast fat-cats. Brexit came about because the fat-cats were not listening. Trump comes about because of the same situation. The EU collapse will come about exactly the same way if they still refuse to make vital changes and urgently. You ignore the lower echelons at your peril for as sure as night follows day the chickens will, having evaded the fox, come home to roost - on top of your face - eventually. Razz Razz
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Post  cyfrifia on Wed Mar 01, 2017 11:10 am

The demands of acceptable housing for an ever increasing population mean the loss of  countryside. The vision of tighly packed urban sprawl from coast to coast is not an attractive one.

People who want to preserve countryside, landscape, trees, rivers, may be branded as a selfish elite ?

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Post  Atlas on Wed Mar 01, 2017 2:36 pm

People and families having to exist in garages, allotment sheds and any other 'roofed' box that is available is not a picture of what I consider to be Britain in the 21st century. Regardless of even worse conditions for millions world wide my priorities lie with my country and its people first. Take care of my people, ensure a respectable standard of living whereby they can safely produce all that is required of them and perhaps then they will have the wherewithal to help other people in other countries. Green belt - what good will that be when the dispossessed begin roaming the streets of the nimby villages stealing and ransacking their warm comfortable thatched cottages and polluting their gardens with branch-woven wicky huts? Those who don't want to house or even see the rest had better get real. The facts are 1 million houses short NOW, at this moment, and if we started tomorrow to redress the balances it would still take at least ten years. It's time to stop burying the head in the sand before the fires and the peasant stick wielding greater spotted hooligans descend amongst us. Look around Europe (not the BBC) and see what is taking place in the ghettos/sink estates/areas. It has already begun.Evil or Very Mad
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Post  cyfrifia on Wed Mar 01, 2017 3:18 pm

The BBC do seem reticent about reporting what might be going on in europe recently. Perhaps they don't know. President Trump seems to know more about Sweden than they do.

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Post  Atlas on Thu Mar 02, 2017 2:42 pm

The BBC is run by 'elites' and staffed in the main by them. They are to a man 'remainers' as was adequately portrayed by their coverage of the referendum and consequent news output. It made my day as I watched David Dimbleby having to announce to the world that we were 'leaving' - he couldn't hide his astonishment and disappointment no matter how hard he tried. Therefore it isn't wise to rely on the BEEB for good 'coverage', as anything that might detract from a 'positive' for the EU isn't considered suitable for the masses. You have to remember that only those who have done well these last few decades and the young (who know no difference) voted to stay in the EU - which I have to say I can understand. The shame of it is that it shows that 60% of the people across the country didn't feel that way and that is down to apathy or downright selfishness on the part of the last 40 years of governance. You can ignore all the people some of the time and some of the people all of the time but not all the people all the time. The same goes for America and soon for some of the European states as well. Sad Sad
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Post  cyfrifia on Thu Mar 02, 2017 7:03 pm

It's a pity if the BBC loses some of it's good reputation, in todays' internet society, anyone interested can see what is and isn't reported, and wonder why.

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Post  Atlas on Fri Mar 03, 2017 2:55 pm

The BBC should be the 'honest' voice of the people - however - as it is controlled by the government of the day and relies on it very existence through that restriction (in time of war the BBC comes under the MoD) it comes as no surprise to see it err on the side of its master, although it pretends otherwise, and for it to be staffed by people who both accept and appreciate its situation. Those that don't are quickly removed by the BeeB themselves. The national media is a 'weapon' of both 'defence' and 'aggression' for any nation's ruling entity. You will often hear of 'the State TV and Radio' being one of the first targets in a 'coup' for example. That is why the debate on the BBC and the 'license' rumbles on indefinitely - the government will not lose control of it.Rolling Eyes Wink Wink
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Post  cyfrifia on Fri Mar 03, 2017 3:26 pm

Ah well, back to the housing crisis. Neutral

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Post  Atlas on Sun Mar 05, 2017 2:53 pm

Yes. But why? To what useful purpose? Or isn't this just simply a waffle-in? No government in the foreseeable future is going to attempt to change things. They will hope to muddle through until they eventually become ousted by an opposition who will say -t'is not my fault gov - and who will blame the previous administration and also do nothing hoping to muddle through until they in turn get ousted as the new administration say - t'is not my fault gov - and so it will go on - - - - . Twisted Evil
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Post  cyfrifia on Sun Mar 05, 2017 7:31 pm

Difficult to see any useful purpouse in the way things are going, increasing homelessness etc. The news says homeless people on the streets in Manchester are being turned into the 'living dead'.
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/disturbing-video-shows-how-new-12695865

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Post  Atlas on Mon Mar 06, 2017 2:21 pm

Capitalist democratic society works on an acceptable percentage of waste-age - this includes human beings. As much as 10% can be safely 'done away' with either through lack of care or natural disaster it doesn't matter. Ergo - there will always be that % that has no bearing on government calculations. Homelessness falls into that category whereby children are not involved. And there you have it. The larger the population the larger the natural wastage. So it comes as no surprise that the figures continue to rise. If the economic situation gets better then the figures drop but will never be completely done away with as how 'good' things become.Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad

Should our streets be subject to homelessness. No. Not because it is compassionate to attend to the problem but because it doesn't 'look' good for a modern society to have vagrants messing up the place. It sends the wrong message. There you have it - perceptions and realities -. Great isn't it!Rolling Eyes
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Post  cyfrifia on Mon Mar 06, 2017 4:17 pm

Brilliant. Mad

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