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Cllr Ahmed fracas?
Chill37 Mon Jan 27, 2014 12:05 pm
Just seen over on Manchester Evening News website that Cllr Ahmed has been involved in an alleged incident of homophobic abuse towards Cllr Emmott on Cheetham Street Rochdale on Thursday Afternoon last Week. With further details that there is a witness to this incident, which took place near Mr Danczuk's office in Rochdale where Cllr Emmott works.
It further references a story that was pulled on RO last week, over an alleged email to Mr Danczuk MP and his views on the Asian Community's alleged continued denial over Rochdale-organised child abuse.
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Hinch Mon Jan 27, 2014 3:37 pm
Very interesting Chill. Cllr Ahmed is no fan of Mr Danczuk I believe.
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Hamid Mon Jan 27, 2014 3:45 pm
The story may have disappeared locally but you can still get details
here.
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/rochdale-finance-chief-farooq-ahmed-6595376
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Prudence Tempered Mon Jan 27, 2014 7:26 pm
RO pull a story involving Simon Danczuk, what a surprise!
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Poppyanna555 Mon Jan 27, 2014 8:40 pm
Fine pair he and his new wife have turned out to be as spokespersons for the borough!
I refer to Cllr Ahmed and his wife by the way and not our MP and his wife
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Hinch Tue Jan 28, 2014 7:58 am
Yes Poppy, a right pair of stars:-
HIM: Suspended from party after allegations of cannabis use. (No action taken)
HER: Disastrous chairing of Planning Committee as seen on national TV.
HIM: New allegations of street brawling and homophobic abuse.
HER: Blooper on her election address promising to make Rochdale a 'thieving borough".
A fine example to our youth. Still, they're both sharp dressers.
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Guest Tue Jan 28, 2014 5:37 pm
Hinch wrote: -----HER: Disastrous chairing of Planning Committee as seen on national TV.
The resulting public dismay was less than a year ago but, under the inimitable Council Leadership of Colin Lambert, she was then selected as the Chair of Rochdale Township Action and Resources Committee, and appointed as a Deputy Cabinet Member for Place & Regulation ! There's council action for you ..
Hinch wrote: -----
Rochdale finance chief Farooq Ahmed quizzed by police over 'homophobic' insult at fellow councillor
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/rochdale-finance-chief-farooq-ahmed-6595376. It reads at least like an alleged Public Order incident, but do folk seriously expect any further news reporting or police proceedings to happen here ...
Surely it's time Mr Lambert 'retired' from all his council posts and concentrated on his own full-time, salaried employment with Jim Dobbin MP ?
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johnb Wed Jan 29, 2014 12:46 pm
Interesting to see the Evening News link is taken down.
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Hamid Wed Jan 29, 2014 12:54 pm
Why is our press being so lily-livered. Did it happen or didn't it? I suspect pressures have been brought to bear.
Is this another of Mrs Poppyanna's famous British customs and traditions, the whimpering of a free press?
Oh, I hear a strange whooshing sound! Is something being swept under the carpet yet again?
Is this another of Mrs Poppyanna's famous British customs and traditions, the whimpering of a free press?
Oh, I hear a strange whooshing sound! Is something being swept under the carpet yet again?
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keithatrochdale Wed Jan 29, 2014 2:12 pm
It comes up fine on this link;
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/rochdale-finance-chief-farooq-ahmed-6595376
Stop trying to cause trouble Hamid.
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Atlas Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:56 am
Did someone pinch your toys as a child Hamid? You tell me who it was. I will 'get' them for you.
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johnb Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:47 pm
In truth, there is not much of a story. It seems that this is here simply to provide an opportunity to rake over previous unproven allegations.
What it DOES is show the vast divide between Rochdale Constituency Labour Party and Rochdale Metropolitan Council Labour Group.
What it DOES is show the vast divide between Rochdale Constituency Labour Party and Rochdale Metropolitan Council Labour Group.
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Chill37 Thu Jan 30, 2014 1:37 pm
johnb wrote:In truth, there is not much of a story. It seems that this is here simply to provide an opportunity to rake over previous unproven allegations.
What it DOES is show the vast divide between Rochdale Constituency Labour Party and Rochdale Metropolitan Council Labour Group.
So who is the witness then in the story?
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johnb Thu Jan 30, 2014 6:22 pm
That is a very interesting question...
I'll bet it's not a concerned member of the public though.
I'll bet it's not a concerned member of the public though.
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Guest Tue Feb 04, 2014 3:03 pm
Councillor Farooq Ahmed suspended at his request
http://www.rochdaleonline.co.uk/news-features/2/news-headlines/85208/councillor-farooq-ahmed-suspended-at-his-request
Isn't this the second time he's used withdrawal as a political In-Fracas tactic ?
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Chill37 Tue Feb 04, 2014 3:36 pm
johnb wrote:That is a very interesting question...
I'll bet it's not a concerned member of the public though.
Time will tell.
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Hinch Tue Feb 04, 2014 4:26 pm
Mojo Hill wrote:
Councillor Farooq Ahmed suspended at his request
http://www.rochdaleonline.co.uk/news-features/2/news-headlines/85208/councillor-farooq-ahmed-suspended-at-his-request
Isn't this the second time he's used withdrawal as a political In-Fracas tactic ?
A very canny move if you understand how the Party works.
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Guest Tue Mar 04, 2014 11:39 pm
Hinch wrote:
Yes Poppy, a right pair of stars:-
HIM: Suspended from party after allegations of cannabis use. (No action taken)
HER: Disastrous chairing of Planning Committee as seen on national TV.
HIM: New allegations of street brawling and homophobic abuse.
HER: Blooper on her election address, promising to make Rochdale a 'thieving borough".A fine example to our youth. Still, they're both sharp dressers.
So, does this mean he's re-joined the Labour Party "fold" and cancelled his local self-suspension ?? : -
Arts for Health and Wellbeing Achievements Awards Event ˃
http://www.rochdaleonline.co.uk/news-features/2/news-headlines/85773/arts-for-health-and-wellbeing
Councillor Farooq Ahmed is most clearly mentioned in this promo Award; in the photo line up shown, his clothing -
it is him, isn't it ?? - looks very 'artistic,' self-confident, eye-catchingly different ...
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johnb Wed Mar 05, 2014 1:02 pm
He is still a councillor... even if self suspended.
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Hinch Thu Mar 06, 2014 6:04 am
Reminds me of 'Sharp Dressed Man', the old ZZ Top number:-
Clean shirt, new shoes
And I don't know where I am goin' to
Silk suit, black tie,
I don't need a reason why
They come runnin' just as fast as they can
Cause every girl's crazy 'bout a sharp dressed man
Gold watch, diamond ring,
I ain' missin' not a single thing
And cufflinks, stick pin
When I step out I'm gonna do you in
They come runnin' just as fast as they can
Cause every girl's crazy 'bout a sharp dressed man
Top coat, top hat,
I don't worry cause my wallet's fat
Black shades, white gloves,
Lookin' sharp and lookin' for love
They come runnin' just as fast as they can
Cause every girl's crazy 'bout a sharp dressed man.
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Guest Fri Mar 07, 2014 11:36 pm
It seems not, with familiar local 'silence(s,'Mulldog wrote:
Has this not been resolved yet then?
but I still don't see how he can remain quoted as a Labour Councillor when he's been suspended at National Party level, etcetera ..... In early February, it was subsequently reported he was being summonsed to court and had been suspended by the National Labour party - for the second time.
A court date hadn’t been set at that time; he was expected to appear before magistrates in the following few weeks to face allegations of a public order offence.
Farooq Ahmed accused of homophobic insult against a colleague suspended from Labour party: -
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/rochdale-council-boss-farooq-ahmed-6677521
Labour's head office confirmed that he had been suspended from the national party.
Surely it would / should be publicised if this has been rescinded ?, again.
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cyfrifia Sat Mar 08, 2014 12:14 am
Some people get into a line of business, be it politics, property management, banking, ticket sales, or conducting marriages, develop a good grasp of the system and how it works, it's weaknesses, loopholes and scamming opportunities, play the system and make a mockery of it. It's an aspect of human nature to take the mickey at other people's expense. Some wouldn't behave that way because they don't think that way, other do. Those who set up systems need to organise them better, not so much to be foolproof as to be robust against the well informed or well connected chancer. Not that this is necessarily happening in this case, but it makes you wonder, that sort of stuff goes on a lot.
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Guest Sun Mar 09, 2014 12:20 am
Cyfrifria: your philosophical night prose and ‘the price of fish’ may appear congruent, however ..
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3 March 2014, from ‘the political week ahead’ ….
In Rochdale, the council's Deputy Mayor and finance chief Farooq Ahmed will appear before magistrates this week to answer a summons for a public order offence.
There would seem to be benefit, to try and re-build some political transparency and trust agenda in Rochdale, if basic factual information about local senior public figures was released locally - rather than coming into the public domain like 'a side dish' from regional / other media sources. 
It would likely stop some un-necessary speculation and go a little way towards restoring a belief that politicians, moreover, have accountability as well to their Party colleagues and, importantly, to the public of the borough.
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cyfrifia Sun Mar 09, 2014 12:08 pm
Mojo Hill wrote:Cyfrifria: your philosophical night prose and ‘the price of fish’ may appear congruent, however ..
The price of fish, or of a pint of beer are traditional stating points for a discussion bewailing the state of the nation or putting the world to rights.
For such discussions to go anywhere useful, clear facts and information are needed, and you rightly bewail the lack of transparency, trust and basic factual information in local politics.
People like to express an opinion based on what they understand in the absence of such clear information. I think there is a general sense of incompetence of regulation and absence of responsibility in most aspects of what people have to deal with in life, from buying a 'beef' sandwich through to political process. Scammery and misinformation has developed into an established culture, it's usually the honest and well meaning taking the damage and paying the price.
It is tiresome being careful all the time of what can be trusted, a situation that wants sorting out. Your idea that politicians should be accountable to the public would be as good a starting point as any.
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