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Re-organising the railways

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Post  cyfrifia Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:11 pm

Obviously, the UK rail system is so badly organised, and has been for so long, it's causing grief, expense and difficulty.
https://www.rochdaleonline.co.uk/news-features/129/letters-to-the-editor/107406/letter-commuting-by-train-now-costs-as-much-27-pence-per-minute-as-much-as-making-a-premium-rate-phone-call-for-some-commuters
A start re-organising could be to link wages for commuters with train fares, effectively paying people to travel by train. Smile

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Post  johnb Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:29 pm

One problem is that London is essentially screwed with long, slow, expensive commutes, therefore London considers that the same should be acceptable for all of us. The model should be to supply reasonable standards at a reasonable charge, not soak the marks for all you can.
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Post  Atlas Thu Jan 12, 2017 3:37 pm

I couldn't even begin to discuss 'what to do about the railways' in this country as the pages are too few, life is too short and nobody ever listens anyway. But - .
The system is set and based upon 19th century requirements. The island and land and available areas too constricted. The vision and money not available. And is 'Rail' travel the answer anyway?

Given suitable answers to the above questions and one might proffer adequate solutions in pursuance of radical but essential requirements. Other than that - Best of luck.Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
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Post  cyfrifia Fri Jan 13, 2017 11:09 am

London has become a mega-city. There are a lot of them round the world now. One of the problems with them is that they govern and administer the countries they happen to be in, that gave rise to them, that they currently occupy, but often have a diminishing connection with and little interest in.

Populations that don't live in the mega-city are pretty much irrelevant. So yes, that is one of the underlying problems of our railways.

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Post  Atlas Fri Jan 13, 2017 3:23 pm

That is one of the underlying problems of all nations for all social problems. Concentrating the resources in the areas most profitable to the countries economy embitters all beyond and creates divides. It happens everywhere and is probably one of the main reasons for disquiet and revolution across many continents. Trickle downs that whither to a drop foments anger which can only be ignored for a limited period of time. Rail requirements for a growing city's population and business are bound to get priority over urban and rural and consequently the lion's share. Good governments recognise the problems and make better attempts at spreading the icing - even if it is cosmetic. Indolent governments just hope the problem festers and doesn't break out. Bad governments end up fighting civil wars. - otherwise known as the lose - lose scenario.Evil or Very Mad
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Post  cyfrifia Fri Jan 13, 2017 7:22 pm

Londoners are well aware of the north-south divide, the economic, cultural and social gap between Tooting and Islington, between north London and south London.
http://www.standard.co.uk/comment/comment/amol-rajan-looking-out-from-ally-pally-i-now-get-london-s-northsouth-divide-a3194676.html
London is a land to itself, it has no need to think what may lie beyond it's sprawling suburbs.

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Post  Atlas Sat Jan 14, 2017 3:44 pm

Islands without moats are non-defencable (how's that for a new word). Any land area that puts itself aside from its neighbouring boundaries and ignores what is happening beyond and to the detriment of its neighbours deserves all it will ultimately get. The peasants are revolting has two meanings. One should always keep an eye over one's shoulders apt one's indolence loses one's head.Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Evil or Very Mad
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