Rochdale In The News Again

Karen explains how her bosom became so popular on the internet.

‘Because I’m taking them myself, yes, they come out on a bit of an angle,’

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2657645/So-did-MPs-wife-post-sexy-selfies-They-caused-global-Twitter-storm-Here-woman-whos-talk-Westminster-explains-herself.html

boob-pics-mp-admits-to-taking-ecstacy

http://www.rochdaleonline.co.uk/news-features/2/news-headlines/87709/rochdale-mp-simon-danczuk-has-admitted-taking-ecstasy-and-cannabis

The national media are taking an interest in any follow-up story that can reasonably include a good selection of the very popular pictures of Karen's bosom.

My internet says something about a 90 year old being abducted and raped in our fair town. How true is that?
AND - if so. What the f*** is going on?

Good to hear from you after a while, Hinch, and yes, to a journalist, it's a story. In reality, yes, quite right, it beggars not only belief but description. It might be wishful thinking to understand this particular attack as an individual abberation, something very out of the normal, rather it appears to be part of a continuing series of events on similar themes, very sadly defining Rochdale in the news, the media, in public perception, and in reality? as a worryingly established location and byword for the most sickening of human behaviour.

A robbery of elderly people in their home reported today.
http://www.rochdaleonline.co.uk/news-features/2/news-headlines/87938/image-released-following-burglary-of-83yearold-womans-flat-in-heywood
No wonder the elderly are feeling under threat. Targeting the elderly and otherwise vulnerable should be given severe punishment, and that goes for politicians as well as other con merchants and robbers.

http://www.rochdaleonline.co.uk/news-features/2/news-headlines/87985/callous-con-man-threatens-92yearold-and-takes-400

Yet another report in the local news of a callous, threatening and persistent con merchant targeting people in their nineties. Something needs doing about this, but what exactly ?

National news.

Those of us who do not fancy an old age wearing stained and dirty clothes, living in a firetrap of a home where floors are smeared with faeces, bedrooms smell of wee, staff have not been properly vetted, and residents suffer mysterious unreported injuries might be interested in the report of a 'surprise inspection' of a 'Home for the Elderly' in Rochdale.

http://www.rochdaleonline.co.uk/news-features/2/news-headlines/88745/parklands-house-banned-from-taking-residents

The'ban' should be kept 'in force' until such times as the problems have been ironed out and the premises re-inspected. Follow up inspections should take place (without prior notification) on at least three more occassions over the next 18 months to ensure standards are being kept up. If not the place should be closed down and the 'owners' prosecuted. No 'second chances' should be given. Not surprised of Wales.  

The statement from the director of adult services as given in the news

http://www.rochdaleonline.co.uk/news-features/2/news-headlines/88783/investigation-underway-at-parklands-house

Is bland and unconvincing, sounds rather fudgey. Lets hope they are better at doing the job than they are at making statements.

Simon Danczuk, M.P. for Rochdale, speaks up, and tells it like he sees it, in the national press today.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2726975/MPs-ferocious-attack-serving-Chief-Constable-As-long-police-chief-stays-paedophiles-sex-abusers-away-writes-SIMON-DANCZUK-Labour-MP-Rochdale.html

Yet more rank hypocrisy and party point scoring from Danczuk.

It may not be hypocrisy if that is what he believes. We could do with more politicians taking and expressing rational views and arguments, rather than deeply party political points of view. The political correctness Mr. Danczuk refers to, and blames, is as much, if not more associated with New Labour as with the Liberal Party.

PT you really are a pain in the bum.  Where, as regards the main thrust of the statement, does politics come into the equation?  It seems you would rather spout off a political direction to the points made than the subject matter itself.

Is the man fit for purpose or isn't he? That's the only thing that matters. Not what colour the writers politics. You will be telling us next he's bound to be a Freemason and should thus be hanged and must be guilty of almost everything.

Stick to the point can't you!

Atlas, I actually completely agree with you that politics does not come into this and that's exactly why I made the comment that Danczuk is being, yet again, a complete hypocrite.

If you read the article, it adresess the main practical points, but there is a subtext of party political sideswipes, which serves to undermine it's impact. The charge of hypocrisy is a bit overstated, as statements by our politicians go, it's fairly straightforward, about putting pressure on to face the facts and see something needs to change. In a similar way, Prudence is adressing the knot of party political wrangling that disconnects the public from politics and paralyses the process of getting things done properly.

I never read subtexts. Everybody has a political agenda of one form or another. Best to slant over such and get on with the work at hand. And get 'things' done.  

Atlas wrote:I never read subtexts. Everybody has a political agenda of one form or another. Best to slant over such and get on with the work at hand. And get 'things' done.  

It's almost pointless reading Danczuk's article if you don't do subtexts, Atlas. Anyway, it looks as though we might be about to see if his standards are partisan or not.

As politicians go, Simon Danczuk has a good reputation for speaking up effectively, where others do not dare. His recent statements however, do show a strong party political theme, which is distracting and tedious. In the circumstances, we need politicians who will take a break from such politiking, and use their position of responsibility to tackle the practical realities of child protection and all that is involved with it.

cyfrifia wrote:As politicians go, Simon Danczuk has a good reputation for speaking up effectively, where others do not dare. His recent statements however, do show a strong party political theme, which is distracting and tedious. In the circumstances, we need politicians who will take a break from such politiking, and use their position of responsibility to tackle the practical realities of child protection and all that is involved with it.

Well the back lash (for want of a better word) against simon has started for his stance on child abuse over on socail media sites.

Perhaps that pressure gets to him, hopefully not, he seems robust and sensible. Social media sites seem to have a problematic effect, I've seen people quite upset by things said on them. The forum format is better if you have something to say, but may be considered old fashioned in internet terms. The political setup in Rochdale seems to be a bit sick by all accounts.

We get used to bad news, and there is usually something worse next week to engage the mind, but this issue of child sexual abuse is central to much that is problematical in our society, if it was prioritised long term, and the connected causes and failures properly and robustly dealt with, it could go a good way towards sorting things out to make a better life for everybody.

Very true.

I'm unsubscrbing from a few pages on FB land due to obscene comments and attempts to gloss over or re -write history, with wording such as, ' this page is only for forwared thinking people with interest in the future and not thinking of the past.'  

Extremely dangerous in my eyes

Hopefully that will free you up to say more on here then, Chill. After the effort various people have gone to to establish this free forum for Rochdale, it would be a pity to let it lapse. I have been waffling on to keep it spinning for a while, but there must be some people to agree, disagree or have something else to say.

I too am 'spinning' it out in an effort to keep the wheels turning but it appears we are losing out to the (what I call ) idiot sites.
I have been told that my railway has been appearing all over the place on some of these 'sites' and why haven't I replied to some of the more ignorant inane comments. My answer is simple. If you want to discuss the 'real' facts with 'people in the know' then try writing a proper educated question, without malice aforethought, in a proper and intelligentt manner, on a 'proper' well run forum. I suppose that would let out 99.9% of those that think social media sites are proper places for rational debate or discussion but - hey - what do I know.

To ignore ones history is to continue to make the same mistakes. Not my saying but made by some very intelligent people of the past. One can only go 'forward' with learned knowledge of the past. Perhaps Chill you should remind them of such realities. Anyone thinking otherwise is obviously both arrogant and ignorant to begin with - which doesn't bode well for them as individuals. Sad really.

To ignore history is not a brilliant idea. It is reported

http://www.rochdaleonline.co.uk/news-features/2/news-headlines/89115/one-in-three-rapes-robberies-and-violent-attacks-written-off-by-gmp-as-no-crime

that a huge number of rapes and violent attacks have been 'written off' as 'no crime' by police in recent years.


There are press rumours that Manchester police intend to re-trace their footsteps, and to arrest large numbers of known child grooming gangs and rapists this year, before Christmas. Obviously that would be a good idea, everyone would want to happen, but, we will see.

Update: 28 men arrested by West Yorkshire police.
http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/11443422.28_men_arrested_in_Keighley_grooming_gang_probe/?ref=var_0