The Danczukian mysteries

What started as a bit odd has become confusing, complicated, contradictory, and mysterious.

Do we live in a multiverse, where everyone can have a different reality? 

http://www.rochdaleonline.co.uk/news-features/2/news-headlines/94356/karen-danczuks-mother-says-that-many-of-her-daughters-memories-are-a-figment-of-her-imagination

The lady opened the bottle and the genie popped out. Getting it back in again won't be anything like as easy. But it makes for good chip paper for the rabid gutter-mongers and lunatic ghoulish.

It's true or it's not! Who cares anyway? There are always those hovering in the wings just waiting for the Karen's of this world to break cover in order to make hay whilst the sun shines. As long as she doesn't want my vote I doubt I could care less.

You could at least pretend to be interested, just to be polite.

Surprisingly I never pretend. On a face to face value you might discern a slight ironic curl of the lip or a mischievous twinkle of the eye in response to certain questions. But as we are blanked by the lack of a visual, on the moment intercourse, such cannot be the case.
I am not disinterested just disheartened that my fellow man/woman seems incapable of being able to maintain a steady, rational, logical progression towards personal accomplishments without falling off into some hallucinogenic twaddle or enterprise to (supposedly) better their lot.
Such 'idiots' (and I use the term loosely) do nothing towards our reputation as a 'rational' nation/race of people, something which we have striven for over many centuries. It beggars belief and is a far cry from 'selfies' which in itself is bad enough.

Cor! What a scorcher.

i must presume you are not referring to the weather. Therefore I am suitably chastised for being less than accommodating to one's delicate nature. I apologise unreservedly for being a disinterested t*** and promise to try and not let it happen again.

Can't fault that attitude, Atlas, according to psychometric analysis, you have a balanced perception of priorities and a full and meaningful trickle of conciousness. How did you miss the brain drain, were you hiding in the woods?

Ahhh. Again I remember it well. "Tha' what!! A Butcher!! What did yer bother coming t' this school fer? What was wrong wi' a Secondary Modern?" "Mi' mum don't like them Secondary schools. Full er thicko's she says." "I don't know. I give up wi' you lad. Here! Yer history paper. 96. I don't know why I bother."

And so it goes on - Life eh! There's nowt like it.

An un-fortunate technical glitch
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/mp-simon-danczuk-blames-hardcore-8936796

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWG2dsXV5HI

Stay away from dodgey technology - especially if you don't know how it works.
And secondly - if intentional shows he has a healthy male attitude towards sexual arousal.
And thirdly - men! What can you do with them? Tch!

Is there such a thing as bad publicity? The Danczukian melodrama continues in the media, like a low budget Kardishans, whoever they are. Simon is now making a formal complaint against someone for associating Pakistanis with grooming gangs, seems shaky ground there.

Nothing shaky about his foundations on that score. There are good and bad in all populations of all ethnicities. We know that many of the, so called, grooming gangs come from the Pakistani communities as most of the trafficking gangs come from the Eastern Block (Slavic) and most of 'Sport's' illegal gambling gangs come from East Asia (China) and most of the robbers and burglars come from here amongst our own. Culturally global areas spawn certain major types of crime and when populations mix those 'cultures' become more prominent within the host land and a problem for the host populations. We created the problem and now we must live with it and try to eradicate, within our indigenous laws, that which offends our sensibilities. Simples really.

As you point out there in glorious technicolour, certain groups of people behave in particular ways, according to their culture, and are associated with particular types of crimes. That's well accepted, so how can someone saying so be called a 'race hate crime'? Seems more like a twitter-spat, anyway, Mr. Danczuk has more to say on the subject -

http://www.rochdaleonline.co.uk/news-features/2/news-headlines/95043/simon-danczuk-why-i-reported-katie-hopkins-to-the-police

I understand his exasperation at the stupidity that some journalist types come out with. Whatever anyone says about young Simon you can't take away from him the fact that for whatever his personal reasons he 'outed' Smith were many others had failed and his heart is in the right place.
Work with what you have got and 'know' for as long as you have it. There will be plenty of time for regrets when at some later stage you have lost it.

Yes, Mr. Danczuk seems a useful chap, he did mention in his 'pornography twitter-link' defence that he is feeling strain and overtired. He and his lady wife seem to have been involved in a lot of media and twitter related hoo-ha of late.

On the level of twitter-wars, he is making his opinion known, and that's ok, but his legal complaint of 'racial hatred' doesn't seem justified, if it's based on Katie whatsit connecting Pakistani men with grooming.

In the article above, Simon complains of Katie whatsits' followers making threats against him, that seems a more serious matter. Although grooming has slipped from the headlines, there is probably a lot of people who are angry about it, and this sort of twitter-battle stirs it up.

Forums are better for vaguely sensible chatter, Twitter seems a very volatile set-up.

For those who could be bothered listening, the conversation between Simon D and Katie whatsit continues at -

http://www.lbc.co.uk/katie-hopkins-danczuk-is-wasting-police-time-107386

Although I've been impressed with Simons' work, he seems to have gone off at an unfortunate tangent on this one, turning a personality clash, or clash of views, into an overcomplicated hoo-ha.

Simon is responsible to the people of Rochdale whereas Katie has free rein to say and do as she wants where Rochdale is concerned. It's too easy to snipe from the sidelines in order to get yourself noticed, especially at all others expense. She is entitled to her opinions but would have done far better to keep her comments obscure (as to the raising of a Pakistani flag) and left individuals and personalities out of it. There's far too much pointing of fingers these days especially coming from people who do nothing but 'snipe' from a safe distance.
I repeat my comments - stick with those who are prepared to be counted and who in the 'end' result do the most good.

Internet social media like twitter mix the local with the further away. Pakistani gangs running the grooming business has been long term and nationwide. If that's made the Pakistani flag an unwelcome sight to some people, like Katie Whatsit, from a wider perspective that is understandable.

Understandable doesn't make it right. There are many such occasions.

It is incumbent on us all to 'think' before we speak on the harm or dangers our loose words may engender. Far too much trouble arises from 'flags' and 'nationalists'. Tribal twallop for the most part.
It does nothing for overall harmony.
All the flags or none at all. You don't see the UN buildings missing off any flags. I wonder why? Doh.

But to mention Rochdale's specific 'troubles' alongside the flying of Pakistan's flag under whatever guise of reporting was insensitive to say the least. Such things don't help.

Guise of reporting? Thought it was just a twitter-spat, or maybe that's what they call reporting now.

We are not really a flag waving nation, not so long ago, showing a Union Jack was reportable as a hate offence, maybe that helped kill off the habit.

The tendency with these twitter-spats is for people to take sides one way or the other, real life is a bit more complicated than that.

We shouldn't underestimate the effect the grooming scandal had, going on for decades, thousands of people, 'groomers', victims and families involved, and meshing with other forms of crime. Yesterdays newspapers perhaps, but if sight of the Pakistani flag flying within the UK brings up negative feeling, whose fault is that?

Well it's not the fault of the Pakistani community, the vast majority of whom are just as good as the vast majority of the rest of us.
 It's the fault of the malingerers, the indolent, the racists and the power-mongers amongst us who whip up the mass for their own disingenuous, self-serving means.
Left alone most people are happy and content to go on through life just being as useful and productive as their individual circumstances allow them to be.
Bogey-men are the province of the psychopath and the megalomaniac. Beware the rabble-rouser and ask yourself  - -WHY?
As for a Twitter-spat. Maybe. But it's just those sorts of 'spats' that can get out of control   and become something that they were never intended to be. Think before opening mouth. Always good advice.

Negative reaction to the Pakistani flag as a result of the grooming gangs is not the fault of rabble rousers. It is directly the fault of the gangs in question, if they have sullied the flag of their country, it's nobodys fault but their own.

It made it worse that it continued unchecked for many years. So you could arguably blame our society in general to an extent. Gangs became emboldened, without fear of the law. Only a change in attitudes of police, public, courts, councils etc. checked it, not a change in culture or mindset of the offenders, no moral guilt or qualms stopped it, only blunt force of law checked it, and is hopefully now keeping it under control.

Agreed, but without the indolence of our so called 'guardians' is it any wonder the crimes were allowed to proliferate? My point was more the use of a flag raising ceremony by those who would incite others (not themselves you note) by posting the 'event' and 'linking' it when anyone with half a brain would see that such a link was tenuous at best and inflammatory to say the least. No right-minded person would couple the Asian community as a whole to the criminal activities of a few. But that can be the end result when people 'stir' the pot.
It's dangerous and in many cases malicious and should be 'countered' on every occasion by whatever ammunition the rest of us possess. Under the guise of 'hail fellow well met' there are those amongst us who would incite for their own gain. Like cancer it sleeps with one eye open for the main chance. One should always be on the look-out and stamp on it.

Flags do seem to raise emotions, we often see flags being burned and stamped on in the international news, not so many recently, but there was quite a fashion for it.

Where there is a rabble being roused there will be a flag. The trick is to spot - for ill or for good.
Nationalists do it all the time. But very often it is raised for good intent with foul intent kept well hidden in the background. I know. I was there.