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The election result

Post  cyfrifia on Sat Jun 10, 2017 10:47 am

Election results for Rochdale 2017


Labour   Tony Lloyd                                                            Votes 29,035     

Conservative   Jane Howard                                                Votes 14,216     

Liberal Democrat   Andy Kelly                                              Votes 4,027     

UKIP   Christopher Baksa                                                    Votes 1,641     

Independent   Simon Danczuk                                             Votes 883     

Greater Manchester Homeless Voice    Andy Littlewood          Votes 242


A convincing win for Tony Lloyd, Labour Party. In response, Richard Farnell, Rochdale council leader, said -

“For far too long we’ve had people who want to drag the town back, who want to talk about the things that are wrong and for the first time we’ll have an MP who will speak out about all that’s good about Rochdale. It’s got great people, great communities, a great future. For the first time in many years we’ll have an MP who will put the town first, who will talk up the town, who will be a strong and positive voice for Rochdale on the national stage.” 


Talking positive can have good political results, but the downside is turning a blind eye to things that need sorting out. Don't let that happen again. Cool

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Post  Atlas on Sun Jun 11, 2017 2:30 pm

I don't believe a single word of it. Farnell (as I understand it) has done nothing for the town that a blind donkey couldn't have done other than hold onto power for far, far too long and take whatever money he and his cronies could get their hands on. As for a Labour MP in opposition doing anything really useful or constructive for the town I beg to differ. Simon was bad enough. I reckon this chap will be better if only because he has yet to turn out to be a sex-crazed numpty. In truth nobody can put Rochdale 'back' to what it was even should they be on the winning side both in the GMC and Westminster because it is not 'politics' that is required. What is really required is a wish for the town and its people to be proud of the place and to do nothing that would be harmful or negative. Good jobs, well paid, is the first priority - and a sense of belonging and men of 'vision' who are not just out for what they can get. Good luck with all that -.
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Post  cyfrifia on Sun Jun 11, 2017 11:23 pm

Your expectation that politicians and council officers in Rochdale will turn out to be sex crazed numpties, out for what they can get and as useful as a blind donkey may be based on many years of obervation and experience, but, erm, well, we will wait and see. Rolling Eyes

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Post  Atlas on Mon Jun 12, 2017 2:44 pm

They all start out with the best of intentions. Observe the realities. Retreat into their 'bunkers' and wait it out - - - - .Nothing can realistically be done under a ten year programme and none have that guaranteed tenure. As a councillor it's 3 years max. As a sitting MP it's five years max or possibly much less. You won't remember the Aldermen of old. They were the great and the good of the town who lived there all their lives and did their business in the town. They consequently had great leverage on the town and its 'councillors' and MP's as they could get things done by virtue of influences and private money. That system lapsed after the 2nd WW and along with the de-industrialisation the town lost it's 'under-funding' which was absolutely vital to keep the wheels of 'commerce' healthy in the town and the surrounding areas. It's called 'progress' - but not as we know it Jim. Rolling Eyes
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Post  cyfrifia on Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:52 pm

Progress is an outdated concept, what we have instead is complexity. Complicated complexity.

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Post  Atlas on Tue Jun 13, 2017 2:32 pm

What you have is a rudderless ship with a numpty at the helm. Socialism is fine always and providing it has bottomless pockets and the treasury and government behind it. Rochdale has none of these things and will have to take what scraps are thrown its way. The biggest problem is you have a generational problem of the Asian community having been 'taught' to vote Labour and who aspire to 'run' things for their own benefit and - a population brought up on socialist ideals (which are no longer valid). Best of luck with all that. Co's there's nowt down for any of it. Rolling Eyes
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Post  cyfrifia on Wed Jun 14, 2017 12:29 am

A rudderless ship with no-one (or a numpty) at the helm can sail a long way on the open sea, it's when it gets to the complicated bits with rocks and so on it gets tricky.

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Post  Atlas on Wed Jun 14, 2017 4:07 pm

And is subject to all the vagaries of the oceans in its passing. Everyone with a brain knows never to take the seas with contempt. I know. C'ause I've been there. But fortunately never without a rudder and a good helmsman (although we did nearly devastate the St Lawrence Seaway lock system through cheap spare parts and crap workmanship). See Ower Dawning by me. Rolling Eyes
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Post  cyfrifia on Wed Jun 14, 2017 6:20 pm

Spurious components and budget labour!! Brilliant, just what everyone wants ... apparently.

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Post  Atlas on Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:04 pm

The thinner you spread the 'jam' the less palatable it becomes. Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
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