Jimmy Savile

3.3 mill - Hmm. Most certainly I would think.

Nasty pompous self serving arrogant little man, who certainly made £ks for charity, but I found him rude and self important.

£42M was the figure he raised according the the article I read, thats no mean feat.

I agree, and not to be belittled, but it doesnt mean he had to be a nice person!!!

I wasn't saying different, I didn't particularly like him either.
I just wonder what the reasons are for the victims to come forward after his death when he cant defend himself or deny the allegations, thats why I asked could it be his £3.3M estate?
Will his alleged victims be awarded compensation from it?

Charly wrote: I wasn't saying different, I didn't particularly like him either.
I just wonder what the reasons are for the victims to come forward after his death when he cant defend himself or deny the allegations, thats why I asked could it be his £3.3M estate?
Will his alleged victims be awarded compensation from it?

I would surmise the victims feel safer and also have the confidence to do so now that he is no longer here.

There was a kind of 'celebrity sainthood' attached to the man when he was alive and it would appear his friends closed ranks whenever 'accusations' were made. Jimmy Savile had friends in powerful places.

I agree Spartacus. Sadly these celebs and MPs etc are very hard to take on, with the army of supporters around them. IF any of these allegations are true, it's a shame he wasn't found guilty of the charges soon after he did them and sent to prison. Trouble is you get people saying you shouldn't speak ill of the dead. I say if someone needs exposing for what they are or were then expose them-good and bad.

ALL the truth of Jimmy Saville should come out,. What I will say about Jimmy Saville, is yes he did a lot of charity work, but like many "stars" who do he did very well himself out of it, with all the publicity etc.

Some will argue that the dead's wrongs should not be exposed. Fair enough having that belief.

They are also difficult to prove when someone is living, Charly. If these girls/women were victims they probably need some type of closure which was not possible up until now.

I think we have a need to demonise child abusers because it is such an horrific crime. It is very difficult to come to terms with the fact that someone can still be a nice person, do good and be capable of committing terrible offences. Probably why these offenders often get away with it for so long.

Although some people do cry wolf I think they are a tiny majority. It takes a lot of courage for someone to come forward and say they have been a victim, I think we should accept that 'victims' are such until such time as their story is proved to be false the same way we should accept the 'accused' as being innocent until proven guilty.

3.3 million! Yea. Got to be.

I didn't like the man but as far as I am aware he never faced charges and has therefore not been proven guilty. Under English law that makes him innocent.

Accusing someone of sexual offences after they have died means of course that all you hear is a very one-sided story from someone who need have no fear of the defamation laws of libel and slander.

Still, it makes good copy for the TV and press.

Sexually of course, JS was an enigma. Makes it even easier for a bit of mud to stick.

In the 1960s and 70s, pop music was massive, attitudes were different, it was accepted as normal that pop stars had hordes of screaming girls wanting to be groupies. People working in the industry, like in the BBC etc, would probably become used to turning a blind eye to what went on.

Some very dubious personalities appeared in the pop music industry then, Johnathan King, Gary Glitter and the like. The puzzle is, why do the British public seem to favor weird and creepy sort of people to be celebrities?

It is a shame that they waited until after his death when others have been caught and jailed while they are still alive. Garry Glitter for example.

Still did he have some hold over them to put fear into them while he was still alive, now can only say what happened after his death. Too late to do anything now.

Also some people think there is more of a financial motive but if they expect any money from his estate they are far too late now.

The real evidence or confession has now gone to his grave as to speak.

And so has any chance for him to defend himself.

Still, some mediocre film producer will have a notch on his c.v

Could be true that JohnB. Cannot disagree with your last post.

By all accounts Jimmy Saville was very litigious, and rich, so I imagine that it would have been hard for any victim to summon up the courage to take him on.
If someone had sexually assaulted me as a child I think that I'd get nearly as much satisfaction from ruining their reputation after their death as seeing them jailed during their lifetime.

I found the docutmentry very disturbing, especially the 3 women who did not want to be identified dosent look like a witch hunt. There was a very strange interview he gave on radio about Gary Glitter. Also on Channel 4 news a very disturbing conversation he had with what sounded like a very young girl that was recorded by a sound technition during a documentry he was doing.40 years ago girls were not as street wise as they are now. And l think it would be wrong to judge thoses young girls with girls of that age today. but of course we have to remenber that in the Rochdale grooming case, the young girls were not believed by social workers, police or others in authority, for years and none of thoses men were ' beloved national treasures'

According to a retired police officer nurses did approach him, they said the had not seen him doing anything but children in their care had complained about him. The police officer who appeared on TV said that his senior officers said they would never be able to prove it so no futher action was taken. 40 years later in the Rochdale grooming case, nothing has changed.
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Looks like there has been a cover up by some people who worked with this pervert. The trouble is are there people working with him just as much involved and part of something more sinister?

Just how many are involved?