Who can we send home next?
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southernbelle- Space Cadet
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Re: Who can we send home next?
It would be good to see the back of several 'hate preachers' .... a problem is that some are home grown
Poppyanna555- Officer of the Watch
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Re: Who can we send home next?
Poppyanna555 wrote:
It would be good to see the back of several 'hate preachers' .... a problem is that some are home grown
True Poppyanna and I believe that a prime candidate would be Anjem Choudary, who is a British national of Pakistani descent.
His vitriolic, racist speech apparently doesn't breach a raft of legislation against hate incidents. The Home Office has said hate preacher Anjem Choudary must not be allowed to divide our community, after 3 of our borough councillors complained about his views on murdered Middleton soldier Lee Rigby.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/404924/Hate-cleric-Anjem-Choudary-Lee-Rigby-will-burn-in-hellfire-but-Adebolajo-is-a-nice-man
What a shame the full Rochdale council didn’t commit to a shared protest / submission : -
04 July 2013. ‘Hate preacher must not be allowed to divide community’ insists Home Office : - http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/local-news/hate-preacher-must-not-allowed-4863631
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Indeed MJH, such hateful preaching and with full impunity, why?
And, to think he is claiming benefits amounting to £25k from our country, a country he clearly loathes. Why isn't he working?!
Another leech upon our society!
And, to think he is claiming benefits amounting to £25k from our country, a country he clearly loathes. Why isn't he working?!
Another leech upon our society!
Poppyanna555- Officer of the Watch
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Re: Who can we send home next?
Might it be considered fair and reasonable to refuse re-entry to UK citizens who travel abroad to terrorist training camps, or, would this be considered an insensitive interference with peoples holiday choices?
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cyfrifia- Time Lord
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Re: Who can we send home next?
If we did, I fear that we would need to spend a load of dosh expanding the Transit Lounges of many of our airports.
In any case. 'boot camp holidays' are becoming very popular across the social spectrum. I noticed a van in Norden yesterday offering boot camp-style military training for corporate, team-building events.
And now the cadence, "One, two, three, four. Guess who we are fighting for?"
"Gimmie an A.
Gimmie an L.
Now Gimmie a Q... Etc"
In any case. 'boot camp holidays' are becoming very popular across the social spectrum. I noticed a van in Norden yesterday offering boot camp-style military training for corporate, team-building events.
And now the cadence, "One, two, three, four. Guess who we are fighting for?"
"Gimmie an A.
Gimmie an L.
Now Gimmie a Q... Etc"
Hinch- Spaceship Commander
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Re: Who can we send home next?
I was given to understand that after a great deal of research both here and in the States that 'boot-style' corporate team-building events had proven totally ineffective and positively unsuitable for their purpose as most participants viewed them as 'jaunty away day breaks' -notwithstanding the participants got to see the seedy side of their colleagues and were not impressed. Better to know them 'in passing' so to speak.
As for the 'training-camp' tourists - How would we know? And as we do - how? And wouldn't that expose our methods of 'obtaining the knowledge'? And - as we do - how? Oh dear. More wormy cans.
And before you ask again teamplayer2 -bogorf.
As for the 'training-camp' tourists - How would we know? And as we do - how? And wouldn't that expose our methods of 'obtaining the knowledge'? And - as we do - how? Oh dear. More wormy cans.
And before you ask again teamplayer2 -bogorf.
Atlas- Time Lord
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Re: Who can we send home next?
Do UK citizens traveling abroad have a right to privacy/secrecy as to where they go and what they do, or, is it reasonable to expect the police and security services to keep tabs on the movements of potential criminals and terrorists?
cyfrifia- Time Lord
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Been on a few of these corporate training events over the years. Waste of time. Lessons? Some tasks are better approached via teamwork. Some people are good leaders, some ain't. I usually emerged as a leader.
Preferred leadership style? Benign dictatorship.
So much of it a waste of money.
Did transactional analysis once. That was fun. So many of these courses run by people who have no concept of the requirements of the organisation they are hosting. Often run by bullies, ineffectuals or misplaced boy scouts.
As a union rep, I once had to represent people accused of some 'over enthusiastic bonding' on an away-weekend. Ooo... err... Missus!
Many of them are just an excuse to get out of the workplace and get p*ssed. Keeps many of our local hotels and conference centres in business; often using public money to make the tills ring.
The place to learn teamwork is on the job in the workplace; particularly in the public sector. Often they are just used as jollies for the management with little or no observable benefit.
Preferred leadership style? Benign dictatorship.
So much of it a waste of money.
Did transactional analysis once. That was fun. So many of these courses run by people who have no concept of the requirements of the organisation they are hosting. Often run by bullies, ineffectuals or misplaced boy scouts.
As a union rep, I once had to represent people accused of some 'over enthusiastic bonding' on an away-weekend. Ooo... err... Missus!
Many of them are just an excuse to get out of the workplace and get p*ssed. Keeps many of our local hotels and conference centres in business; often using public money to make the tills ring.
The place to learn teamwork is on the job in the workplace; particularly in the public sector. Often they are just used as jollies for the management with little or no observable benefit.
Hinch- Spaceship Commander
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I have only experienced the Team Building theme on my interview to get on to the nursing degree many years ago. I can still think of a good 20 uses for a paper clip most of which are utterly bizarre and of no use
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In reply cyfrifia and in a word - NO. It's not only reasonable but essential. There's a war going on both out there and in here. It's called - Who Dares Wins -.
Islam wants its time in the sun - and to hell with anything in its way - is the mantra for those who would pervert and lie for ultimate power of which there are many. Following them the uneducated and ignorant who promised jam today are happy to believe and are easily manipulated. To provide a modicum of safety to we who would know better (the haves) from those who don't (the have-nots) your privacy is but as chaff in the wind and not essential for our way of life. If you want to continue living that is -
Islam wants its time in the sun - and to hell with anything in its way - is the mantra for those who would pervert and lie for ultimate power of which there are many. Following them the uneducated and ignorant who promised jam today are happy to believe and are easily manipulated. To provide a modicum of safety to we who would know better (the haves) from those who don't (the have-nots) your privacy is but as chaff in the wind and not essential for our way of life. If you want to continue living that is -
Atlas- Time Lord
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Re: Who can we send home next?
These vans seem to have caused some amusement, the media think they are a joke, but there are illegal immigrants in the UK that want to go home and don't know how to escape from traffikers and gang masters, and others imported as 'domestic servants'.
cyfrifia- Time Lord
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Re: Who can we send home next?
During debates about an amnesty for up to 1 million illegal immigrants living here early in 2009, the then Immigration Minister, Phil Woolas, said: 'What unfortunately would happen is that people traffickers and others would see that as a pull factor to get people to the UK illegally and we would end up with a bigger problem.
' The proposal for an amnesty starts with a conversation in London with the best of intentions and it ends up with dead bodies in the back of lorries in northern France. '
Still seems a valid point, some four years later ...
' The proposal for an amnesty starts with a conversation in London with the best of intentions and it ends up with dead bodies in the back of lorries in northern France. '
Still seems a valid point, some four years later ...
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