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Post  teamplayer2 on Tue Nov 05, 2013 6:46 am

Atlas in reply to your last post. When the story first appeared on Rochdale Online. I emailed the leaders of each political party in Rochdale including a couple of local councillors in my area where I live in protest about the proposed pay rise.

I wrote a letter to the local paper which was published. I also made a board up to be used in a protest at the Town Hall if needed but the debate at the Town Hall did not take place and with held until a later date. So the board I made is on stand by just in case. Also along with raising the issue on certain social media sites which had a good response. I did ask a media news site if they would tell people that I will be protesting at the town hall and for people to join me if they wish but they decided not to publish. As they where already getting overwhelmed in response to the story. Though I did see that some tax payers group where going to protest according to one website, but nothing heard again about it.

At the same time I did send a couple of emails to Councillor Lambert in protest which he was nice enough to respond to along with other emails from other councillors who replied.So along with other people in Rochdale I hope my bit helped to at least for Coucillors to look at it again and hope it gets thrown out. Or at least a proper debate rather than trying to be rushed through and the voters opinion taken into account. I am not going to forget and waiting to send more letters and emails if needed and join a protest about it if needed and ask people to join me if they wish to. Though I suspect I lot of people did nothing because of apathy and think nothing will change anyway!


Of course I tried my best on top of waiting for results of a cancer test I had done and worrying about my health at the same time about my partners health. Though it did not stop me protesting about the proposed pay rise and how the hell can we afford such large pay rises when everyone else has had to cut back and cut backs to services which has had a big impact on peoples lives in the town of Rochdale.

So Atlas some of us did try and I am sure if you lived in Rochdale you would have. So my mate when you have seen the reply and finished playing with your Hornby Train set I look forward to your reply.Very Happy Shocked Rolling Eyes affraid 
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Post  Chill37 on Tue Nov 05, 2013 8:17 am

Atlas wrote:You should make note and dump every single councillor who didn't vote against it at your next local election.
If you do nothing other than moan on here NOTHING will ever change.Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes 
Well once I know who did and who didnt vote on this pay rise I will vote (or not vote) accordingly.

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Post  Atlas on Wed Nov 06, 2013 1:17 am



Yes I did know you have made a valiant effort teamplayer2 and I congratulate you whole heartedly.
My comments were directed towards others not so willing to fight when the need be.
I would most certainly find out who votes for this or any part of this disgraceful pig-troughing, especially given the present circumstances of the town and its people, and campaign for them to be ousted by any means possible at the next round of elections - if I lived in the town. To be frank I cannot believe the crass stupidity of any elected town official even remotely thinking that this stupidity has any merit whatsoever. It has to be political suicide unless the town's electorate are either stupid or asleep. The mind boggles - truly - absolutely boggles.Mad Mad Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Question Question
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Post  Chill37 on Wed Nov 06, 2013 8:09 am

Hi Atlas

im on record many times as saying I would stand if family issues werent in the way. I do a lot of campaigning behind the scenes to improve my area that I live in. Pkus help out on a more Borough wide area.

As I know if i stood every PR /Spin doctor would start throwing mud and try to smear me over their candidate to divert attention from real work of the issues in Rochdale.

I will stand one day but not in the next two years or so,. Yes I wil be independant.

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Post  teamplayer2 on Wed Nov 06, 2013 3:30 pm




Good points Chill. I would like to stand but not sure if I can and others issues get in the way.
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Post  Chill37 on Wed Nov 06, 2013 4:03 pm



Oh I promise you one day I will be standing.

If i fail I fail.  but at least I will be able to say i put my money where my mouth is and took a chance, or at the very least try to tackle the core issues at the moment.

I did a lot of work lasat year as I was debating then to stand and a lot of what I said people agreed with in the area i live in,  Gangs, speeding traffic acess, shops and Coral Mill waste land.

So chances are a lot of these issues carry on.  As for Borough wide, you could apply a lot of these issues.



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Post  Atlas on Thu Nov 07, 2013 12:56 am

Then I wish you both the very best in your laudable endeavors and hope that time is kind enough for you to fulfill your wishes. But please remember the most important thing - keep party politics OUT of your fight, don't align or publicly announce associations with other political individuals or groupings and stick solely to the local issues for your wards and the town. Walk apart and listen to the people. You won't please everyone but you will please a good majority - and that, in the present circumstances, is a winner. Good luck and keep us informed.bounce cheers Very Happy 
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Post  Chill37 on Thu Nov 07, 2013 7:18 am

Atlas wrote:Then I wish you both the very best in your laudable endeavors and hope that time is kind enough for you to fulfill your wishes. But please remember the most important thing - keep party politics OUT of your fight, don't align or publicly announce associations with other political individuals or groupings and stick solely to the local issues for your wards and the town. Walk apart and listen to the people. You won't please everyone but you will please a good majority - and that, in the present circumstances, is a winner. Good luck and keep us informed.bounce cheers Very Happy 
I already am.. i have doen the walking around my immediate area, which is how I know what issues are important to a lot of people, listed a few of them alreayd.

I know already I wont please a lot of people all of the time. Im not niave. You probably know already I take to task all Political Parties.

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Post  Spartacus on Thu Nov 28, 2013 7:09 pm

OUTRAGEOUS!

http://rochdaleonline.co.uk/news-features/2/news-headlines/83966/employment-committee-recommend-massive-pay-rise-for-chief-executive

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Bravo Councillor Peter Rush!

Even after everything that has happened I am ASTONISHED that RMBC continue to push this forward!

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Post  Hinch on Thu Nov 28, 2013 7:15 pm




So much for the power of poetry.
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Post  Spartacus on Thu Nov 28, 2013 7:24 pm




Absolutely fuming!


Wish I knew my way around local government. Surely there is some way to appeal this? This council is beyond a joke!



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Post  Guest on Thu Nov 28, 2013 11:26 pm

Spartacus wrote: OUTRAGEOUS!

http://rochdaleonline.co.uk/news-features/2/news-headlines/83966/employment-committee-recommend-massive-pay-rise-for-chief-executive

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Bravo Councillor Peter Rush!

Even after everything that has happened I am ASTONISHED that RMBC continue to push this forward!

Spartacus: "Hear, Hear. " and the Directors' salary rises are included .. it will be the Deputy Service Directors next, etcetera.   It feels like Rochdale is democratic Dodo-land. Mad 
 


What a farce.



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Post  cyfrifia on Fri Nov 29, 2013 10:21 am


This picture is for illustrative purposes only, and cannot possibly
depict the true nature of the political landscape

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Post  Chill37 on Fri Nov 29, 2013 10:39 am


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Post  Poppyanna555 on Fri Nov 29, 2013 11:52 am




Why am I not surprised? This council are a total embarrassment, as well as an absolute disgrace! Evil or Very Mad


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Post  Hinch on Sat Nov 30, 2013 6:02 am




When this is finally passed, I suggest a demonstration at the council meeting involving a load of slow handclapping.
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Post  cyfrifia on Fri Dec 06, 2013 11:14 am



Simon Danczuk's letter speaks of priorities and the religion of socialism, and of his sense of despair about the priorities of Rochdale council.

He describes a slow, inevitable and grinding clash of political mindsets going on, deep in the foundations of the town. Very interesting letter Simon.

http://www.rochdaleonline.co.uk/news-features/2/news-headlines/84117/letter-from-parliament-simon-danczuk-mp


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Post  cyfrifia on Sat Dec 07, 2013 10:18 am



In his letter, Simon Danczuk quotes Aneurin Bevan (1897–1960). “The language of priorities is the religion of socialism,”.

The problem of council executives awarding themselves high pay rises is something people will associate more with fat cat culture, the recent M.P.s' expenses scandal and excesses of the banking crisis, rather than with socialist principles. The world has certainly changed since the time of Aneurin Bevan

Are the political battles of the cold war era still being fought out?  Some may think politics is the art of telling lies, or hiding the truth, but that's not good or acceptable. The people of Rochdale feel the effects of whatever is rumbling, hissing and missing a beat in the engine of local politics. The arguments and interests need to be more openly debated, clarified and perhaps even possibly resolved.


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Post  Guest on Mon Dec 09, 2013 10:25 pm



Majority of councillors not prepared to divulge how they intend to vote on massive pay rise for senior council executives - Rochdale Online

Are these comments from our Cllrs for real !   : -

http://www.rochdaleonline.co.uk/news-features/2/news-headlines/84198/majority-of-councillors-not-prepared-to-divulge-how-they-intend-to-vote-on-massive-pay-rise-for-senior-council-executives

“ Throwing a sickie ” and   bounce s comes to mind after reading the article ... and, it IS our business.   Will the press/media have unfettered access to the voting details ?



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Post  cyfrifia on Mon Dec 09, 2013 11:17 pm


Looks like some senior council executives may have to cancel orders for the diamond encrusted tiaras they were hoping to wear for Christmas dinner this year,

http://www.rochdaleonline.co.uk/news-features/2/news-headlines/84201/chief-executives-pay-rise-to-be-limited-to-1pc

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Post  Atlas on Tue Dec 10, 2013 12:55 am



I should darn-well think so as well. Ludicrous inane performance by all concerned. Brains of pigeons and would still fly backwards some of them. Absolute madness - Well Done Rochdale Labour Party - make us all look like idiots why don't you!! Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
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Post  Spartacus on Tue Dec 10, 2013 4:21 pm



I'm waiting to see what happens at the meeting tomorrow. Anything can happen in the next 24 hours, as we all know from experience.

Disgusted with the replies given by these Councillors. I voted under the impression they were representatives of the community serving on the Council. Took me a long time to wake up and smell the rot in the Borough of Rochdale.



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Post  Guest on Thu Dec 12, 2013 5:09 pm

Spartacus wrote:     I'm waiting to see what happens at the meeting tomorrow. Anything can happen in the next 24 hours, as we all know from experience.

Disgusted with the replies given by these Councillors. I voted under the impression they were representatives of the community serving on the Council. Took me a long time to wake up and smell the rot in the Borough of Rochdale.  


No simple 1% across-the-board rise then !

Executive directors are to be assimilated / elevated onto a directors pay grade, plus 1%.

Councillor Lambert was reported to have commented that a “Phase two” continues today, regarding 88 positions.   More, err, assimilations ?

One Council Executive is in line for a £20,000 pay rise : -
http://www.rochdaleonline.co.uk/news-features/2/news-headlines/84267/council-executive-in-line-for-20000-pay-rise                             Pay rises, aka implementations, from 1st January 2014.

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Post  Spartacus on Thu Dec 12, 2013 5:15 pm

Mojo Hill wrote:
No simple 1% across-the-board rise then !
Executive directors are to be assimilated / elevated onto a directors pay grade, plus 1%.

Councillor Lambert was reported to have commented that a “Phase two” continues today, regarding 88 positions.   More, err, assimilations ?

One Council Executive is in line for a £20,000 pay rise : -
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Just read it myself. What an absolute JOKE!

RMBC are causing more damage than the current Government!


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Post  Atlas on Thu Jan 23, 2014 12:50 am

Spartacus wrote:
Just read it myself.     What an absolute JOKE!
RMBC are causing more damage than the current Government!    



And there you are.   Unemployment down.   Biggest drop for 15 years.   Economy growth - nearly back to pre 2008 levels.   Everybody is in it together so, as we claw out of the longest recession in recorded history, we can now afford to pay anything we want to our greedy councillors and their equally greedy operatives at the top level.
What's the problem?? Twisted Evil


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