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Post  teamplayer2 Thu Oct 11, 2012 10:32 pm

A 14 year old girl was shot in Pakistan because she just wanted to learn and better herself and to support others who wanted to learn and educate themselves.

For it the Taliban in the name of Islam tried to kill her. What an evil set of men they are to commit such a vile crime against a 14 year old girl and claim they are doing it in the name of religion.

What a warped set of people these Taliban are to treat the females in the way they do. This cannot be anything to do with their warped idea of religion they claim to be protecting.

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Post  Poppyanna555 Fri Oct 12, 2012 12:18 am

I hear what you are saying Teamplayer and totally agree with your sentiments, they have even threatened to kill her should she survive!
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Post  Atlas Fri Oct 12, 2012 1:24 am

So do I take it that you were in favour of the invasion of Afghanistan to remove them from power - these 'evil' men who go around committing 'vile' crimes and who were providing training camps for Al Queda? Or do you think we should have left them alone until such times as they had become more powerful and begun to expand their religious beliefs and actions such as you have described? Interesting point don't you think?
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Post  UP THE DALE Fri Oct 12, 2012 1:47 am

Well this courageous girl not only campaigns against the Taliban and other extremists, she also campaigns against the US invasion of Afghanistan and and drone attacks carried out by terrorists back in the US, that are murdering innocent Pakistani and Afghan civilians. But of course western press and media don't report these facts about her opposition to the war.

On another note it has been reported that the shell that was supposed to have been launched by Syrian forces into Turkey, was in a fact a Nato shell that had been given to the opponents of the Syrian regime. Thinking about it, why would Syria want to get involved in starting a skirmish with a Nato country that would bring the rest of Nato into the situation? I am NOT taking the sides of the regime, just think that all other countries should stay out of a civil war.
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Post  Chill37 Fri Oct 12, 2012 7:52 am

But hasnt Syria shelled Turkey prior to this latest incident?

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Post  UP THE DALE Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:07 am

Don't know. We get all kinds of reports from that conflict, who do we believe? Can anybody really trust any of the countries/Nato involved around there? I just can't see what benefit there is for Syria to have a Nato country being dragged into it. When I talk about Syria of course I mean the regime. I am sure it would suit the Syria free army opposition.
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Post  Chill37 Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:22 am

To be honest, I try to watch a variety of media on some stories and draw my own conclusions rather than just base my information on one source.

As for trusting Nato I suspect their crediability was seriously dented by the actions of Mr Blair and Mr Bush for their own war in the Gulf.

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Post  Dalelad Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:38 am

UP THE DALE wrote:Well this courageous girl not only campaigns against the Taliban and other extremists, she also campaigns against the US invasion of Afghanistan and and drone attacks carried out by terrorists back in the US, that are murdering innocent Pakistani and Afghan civilians. But of course western press and media don't report these facts about her opposition to the war.
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However the Taliban didn't shoot her because of her opposition to the US invasion, but for 'promoting secularism' but well done for turning another thread into an anti west/capitalist rant.
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Post  UP THE DALE Fri Oct 12, 2012 11:11 am

Thanks for highlighting that it is western capitalist regimes who are attacking innocent people in Pakistan with drones.

I merely provided the facts about what this courageous person campaigns for, if you don't like that that's your hard luck.

She is indeed campaigning for a secular Pakistani state, but also a socialist Pakistan. The Taliban dislike the idea of having a secular socialist country, and do not want an educated population, especially women. She campaigns with the mind not and weapons, unlike her opponents.

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Post  johnb Fri Oct 12, 2012 12:41 pm

The amunition is interchangeable. Of course Syria uses captured munitions - they must be getting short of their own and have no real indigenous industry in that sector.
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Post  UP THE DALE Fri Oct 12, 2012 12:51 pm

Ideally then the key is for all those who are involved with the supply, to stop it. But from war comes opportunity to make more money for the makers and suppliers of such ammunition.

I would still question why the regime would want to bring in Nato into the conflict, by attacking Turkey, IF that's what they have done. Not very difficult for the opposition or it's backers, to fire into Turkey. Wouldn't be first time a "red flag" attack has happened to excuse the entering into a conflict.
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Post  Chill37 Fri Oct 12, 2012 12:56 pm

Depends also on how old the munitions are as well that are being used.

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Post  UP THE DALE Fri Oct 12, 2012 1:09 pm

Chill37 wrote:To be honest, I try to watch a variety of media on some stories and draw my own conclusions rather than just base my information on one source.

As for trusting Nato I suspect their crediability was seriously dented by the actions of Mr Blair and Mr Bush for their own war in the Gulf.

Me too Chill. Very difficult finding the truth sometimes, especially when you have two sides supported by their own media. Not sure we have any news broadcasters who are truly neutral. I have no idea if the Syrian regime's troops attacked Turkey or not, and I hope one day Syria's people get rid of that regime, but I do not want our military or government etc being part of it.

Re Nato I agree.
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Post  teamplayer2 Fri Oct 12, 2012 4:55 pm

Whatever regime gets in we can only hope they let the women of the country have a democratic right to a vote and the same freedom of experession to education and working rights as the men and treated equaly. Also a right to be politicians if they want to be.
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Post  UP THE DALE Fri Oct 12, 2012 5:59 pm

Totally agree, Teamplayer. Not totally sure but I believe Syria is better than many for that.
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Post  Atlas Sat Oct 13, 2012 1:48 am

teamplayer2 wrote:Whatever regime gets in we can only hope they let the women of the country have a democratic right to a vote and the same freedom of experession to education and working rights as the men and treated equaly. Also a right to be politicians if they want to be.

You'll be lucky.
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Post  Atlas Sun Oct 14, 2012 1:08 am

It would appear that the news of this young girls misfortune has promoted mass protests throughout various parts of the Asian and Middle Eastern world - mainly by young girls themselves. Perhaps this particular Taliban religious philosophy, you know the one, if you don't do as we preach we shoot you, hasn't gone down too well after all. Perhaps a shot in the foot this time? Wink
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Post  cyfrifia Sun Oct 14, 2012 1:47 am

The Taliban that shot the girl, and say they will shoot her again, are thugs and nothing more, whatever they believe and preach and live by just makes them murderers and removes their humanity.

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Post  Chill37 Mon Oct 15, 2012 7:35 am

Just read this young girl is now on way to the UK.

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Post  cyfrifia Mon Oct 15, 2012 12:45 pm

Very seriously injured I understand, hope she gets excellent treatment and makes a good recovery. Those so called Taliban want rounding up and put on trial for that crime. Lots of problems in Pakistan.

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Post  Chill37 Mon Oct 15, 2012 3:53 pm

cyfrifia wrote:Very seriously injured I understand, hope she gets excellent treatment and makes a good recovery. Those so called Taliban want rounding up and put on trial for that crime. Lots of problems in Pakistan.

Indeed there is,.Such as in Swat Valley.

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Post  cyfrifia Mon Oct 15, 2012 4:00 pm

Malala, the young girl shot by the 'Taliban' in Pakistan should be arriving by air ambulance in the UK about now. Thinking of her, hope for the best.

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Post  UP THE DALE Mon Oct 15, 2012 4:33 pm

http://action.hopenothate.org.uk/page/s/malala-yousafzai

The Pakistani government are paying for all the costs associated with this operation, transport etc.

On a more bitter note, I post the following

http://www.edlnews.co.uk/index.php/latest-news/latest-news/873-edl-turn-their-poison-on-14-year-old-anti-taliban-activist-malala-yousafzai

These are MY thoughts on the ones who posted those thongs about Malala.

"They are the ultimate, nasty, thick scum. Malala has done more on her own than all the fascist EDL and other fascist types all together to take on the Taliban and other religious extremists. She has more honour in her little finger than these fascist numpties have all together, in fact they have none.

EDL and other fascists type scum are in fact the mirror image of the extreme idiot cowards of extreme religious bigots of Islam, Christianity, and all the other religious extremists. "
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Post  cyfrifia Mon Oct 15, 2012 4:51 pm

It is very sad when people persuade themselves or are persuaded into losing human values. Whatever peoples beliefs when their humanity is lost they become dangerous and need to be controlled somehow.

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Post  Poppyanna555 Mon Oct 15, 2012 5:30 pm

Pleased to hear that this young girl is here in the UK for specialist treatment, it's the least she deserves.
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