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An unexpectedly complicated, rambling, interesting and aerobic speech by Gordon Brown. A troubled man, thinking through his failures and frustrations. A small swipe at Mr. Corben, but nothing to write home about. A half hour lecture on the difficulties of making an omlette out of broken eggs. No pointing at his fingers, just a few strangling sort of hand gestures as he wrestled with the ghosts of his past. An almost Shakespearian soliloquy.
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As I said- he couldn't win either way and should have refused to get involved. But then his ego wouldn't allow him to do otherwise than that which he did. Typical power-seeker.
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Gordon Brown is not really a typical politician, a strange sort of man, a powerful, tragi-comic personality. His gestures are expressive, hands out in front of him as he paces the stage and soliloquises, as though he can still actually see power he desires slipping through his fingers like golden sand, but cannot prevent it. Pity he didn't go in for acting rather than politics.
As for the leadership and direction of Labour, it's too soon, there are no credible leaders presenting themselves.
As for the leadership and direction of Labour, it's too soon, there are no credible leaders presenting themselves.
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A new intervention today from Neil Kinnock.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROKXlvYMKQc
But I don't think he actually said anything, just made funny noises.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROKXlvYMKQc
But I don't think he actually said anything, just made funny noises.
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As well as a few words from across the water (from the real leader). Dids Millibund. Who actually said the only thing so far that has been worthwhile - words to the effect of - stop making fools of yourselves and grow up.
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David Milibands' real name is not Dids Millibund, his real name is Black Adder.
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Yea. I will drink to that one. Cheers
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A little burst of Gilbert and Sullivan from the Labour Party.
"As some day it may happen that a victim must be found,
I've got a little list — I've got a little list
Of society offenders who might well be underground,
And who never would be missed — who never would be missed!"
http://www.rochdaleonline.co.uk/news-features/2/news-headlines/97637/patricia-gilligan-denied-vote-in-labour-leadership-election
With the pantomime about who can vote, is the election of a leader for the Labour party going to work, or will there be a unacceptable uncertainty about who did or should have won?
"As some day it may happen that a victim must be found,
I've got a little list — I've got a little list
Of society offenders who might well be underground,
And who never would be missed — who never would be missed!"
http://www.rochdaleonline.co.uk/news-features/2/news-headlines/97637/patricia-gilligan-denied-vote-in-labour-leadership-election
With the pantomime about who can vote, is the election of a leader for the Labour party going to work, or will there be a unacceptable uncertainty about who did or should have won?
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None of the above. As NONE of the above are qualified to do the job successfully.
I don't know when these so-called intelligentsia of party politics are ever going to learn. The FIRST criteria for success in politics is universal acceptance on face values - and I do mean FACE. Sufficient of the qualified electorate have to 'like' the candidate in order to get them to 'VOTE' for the candidate - both in leadership and general elections. (The latter being the most advantageous). POWER is the objective.
The best they could have done would have been to bring back David Milliband. The worst, look for a pseudo- communist and let him give his jam today scenarios. They are a bunch of idiots. And as such DON'T deserve to be in power.
I don't know when these so-called intelligentsia of party politics are ever going to learn. The FIRST criteria for success in politics is universal acceptance on face values - and I do mean FACE. Sufficient of the qualified electorate have to 'like' the candidate in order to get them to 'VOTE' for the candidate - both in leadership and general elections. (The latter being the most advantageous). POWER is the objective.
The best they could have done would have been to bring back David Milliband. The worst, look for a pseudo- communist and let him give his jam today scenarios. They are a bunch of idiots. And as such DON'T deserve to be in power.
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Labour had loads of support and goodwill, and plenty of time in office, but just weren't good enough and let everyone down badly. Politics looks to be heading into a time of instability now.
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Yes. And a dangerous time it will be. People haven't the gumption to steer clear of the 'jam today merchants' and will 'colour' the pathway with all sorts of mumbo jumbo candidates with the result that the main stream parties will further dilute and become less effective. Greece is a typical example of knee-jerk reactions and grabbing at straws. But it can be a dangerous proposition, for once in power the looneys can wreak havoc.
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Mr. Danczuk reported as being potential victim of a political purge.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/Jeremy_Corbyn/11840531/Tristram-Hunt-and-Simon-Danczuk-are-in-our-cross-hairs-says-Unite-activist-backing-Corbyn.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/Jeremy_Corbyn/11840531/Tristram-Hunt-and-Simon-Danczuk-are-in-our-cross-hairs-says-Unite-activist-backing-Corbyn.html
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Nobody in their right mind would want to be in the Labour Party if they elect Corbyn. His presence alone, as head of the Party, will destroy it - or at least neuter it's effectiveness for the next ten years. Labour made its biggest mistake five years ago. One has to live with one's mistakes - but one should try to remedy them (if at all possible) ASAP, not compound them. The looney-left don't want power. They get their kicks from dissension, not consensus. It was always thus.
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It's not quite clear how the people of Rochdale would benefit from having their M.P. purged, but perhaps that's not the point.
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Purge or no purge - all is an irrelevance. As long as he is a Labour MP he's going nowhere other than to draw his MP's salary and hopefully dredge the past and present for wrong-doers, (something he is good at). Corbyn will never be forming any governments - certainly not in my lifetime - alors - the question becomes academic.
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Labour is academic? OK, if you say so. After not doing too well at running the country politics, the labour party now seem to making the transition into potentially more profitable 'politainment', a blend of politics and entertainment.
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They were always good at that. If it wasn't so tragic it would have been funny. They showed themselves up for what they were. Dreamers. The Blair system with a 'touch' more socialism could have gained them the major prizes. They dumped that opportunity when they went for 'Millipeed' with a 'E' instead of 'Millipeed' with a 'D'. Idiots the lot of them. Either that or crassly naive. Either way - not fit for purpose. And so the people resort to the safe angle - stick with the known as the unknown holds too many risks. And we don't do RISK.
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It ain't over till the fat lady sings. Dianne Abbot on X Factor?
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Too late for Dianne to have an 'X' factor. What you see is what you get from that lady. It's all an illusion. She isn't really 'real'. Your dealing in fantasies and dreams again. Wake up damn you -!
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Can anyone keep her off the telly though?
Will Superdave be invulnerable to Korbynite? See next weeks thrilling episode.
Will Superdave be invulnerable to Korbynite? See next weeks thrilling episode.
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Will Korbynite make the grade? (That's the seventh grade by the way). Watch next weeks enthralling episode of --'Forward To The Past' - -
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Oh dear, I was prepared to give Mr. Corbyn a fair chance, until it became apparent he is a double act with Dianne Abbot.
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Yes. He is actually human but of the Neanderthal species. She is also human but obviously had her toys stolen as a child. Not a good combination either then or now. Bedfellows for the 'party' but watch for the 'pay-back' - it doesn't come cheap.
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We all have media personalities in politics or entertainment we can't stand the sight of, often they do turn out to be pretty iffy. For me, she embodies everything that has been wrong with British politics for many a year. Can't stand her attitude, her manner of speaking. Can't imagine she could possibly survive as a national politician anywhere else but the UK. If Corbynism means seeing or hearing more of her, it's not for me.
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Always reminded me of a matron aunt. She who knows better and knows she knows better. She has an aura of contempt which, whilst probably not intended, smothers her verbal assaults and assaults one's sensibilities like the rattle of a Gatling gun. Shame really. She could be an asset to the Tories where I think her 'toffee-nosed' attitude wouldn't be seen as aggressive bullying. Hey ho -.
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