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Post  cyfrifia Sun Sep 20, 2015 11:06 am

quack quack get out,
quack quack get out,
quack quack, get out of town.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAzESJ62irI

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Post  Atlas Sun Sep 20, 2015 2:54 pm

I don't think she can be blamed for being 'ugly'. That unfortunately is natures way of ensuring differences. I suppose she shouldn't be ugly with it though -? The two together don't help her cause. Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
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Post  cyfrifia Sun Sep 20, 2015 7:16 pm

The reference is not to appearance, it's to a news-story about telling Jeremy Corbens' wife to "get out of town".


I was reluctant to post a link, but here it is. For amusement only.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3241487/Get-town-Jeremy-Corbyn-s-wife-tells-MoS-marriage-really-ended-lover-turned-Minister-Diane-Abbott-hostile-home-visit-told-leave.html

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Post  cyfrifia Thu Sep 24, 2015 11:30 pm

A labour politician called Chris Bryant appearing on BBC question time. This Bryant person has an extremely active right index finger which he waggles, points and waves into the camera, taking up much of the screen. It is a large, heavy finger, as fingers go, with a rather gnarled and unsightly knuckle. Sorry, I have no idea whathe was talking about, as the wavey, pointy jabby finger, which seems to have a life all of it's own, completely distracted attention. What a funny man, as the programme continued, it seems he is an aspiring comedian, which explains why he has a comedy tie and haircut. Is he a potential labour leader?

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Post  Atlas Fri Sep 25, 2015 1:54 pm

Chris probably thinks he is - an aspiring leader. It would be better for the Labour Party if he was an inspiring leader as opposed to a clown with Blair tendencies. There's nothing down for the present 'clowns'. Not one of them has the charisma of even a dead elephant or extinct dinosaur and thus are all non starters. They could do worse than let the present clown jig about in the ring for another two to three years then dump him in favour of David Millipeed OR some other person with the right credentials - that is credentials to impress and recruit the electorate. No win (next time) No point -. Simples. Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
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Post  cyfrifia Fri Sep 25, 2015 4:50 pm

In his conference speech today, Mr. Farage talked about people who think we should stay in europe because we are not good enough to manage on our own.

With the collection of comedy politicians we've accumulated, I can understand where they are coming from. If we leave the E.U. will competent people emerge from the woodwork to run the country, or not?

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Post  Atlas Sat Sep 26, 2015 2:18 pm

I think the Farage emphasis on incompetence from those who think we cannot manage on our own is mostly directed at our competency in trade and business as opposed to competency in management by our wishy-washy politicians. The problem is that we have always had incompetent politicians since Robert Peel's time - there's nothing new there at all.
We managed long before the EU was ever thought of and will be just as capable in the future. I don't know what makes people think we any less capable or that the EU has 'better' political management. The most recent debacles wouldn't inspire a deaf mule. Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Wink Wink
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Post  cyfrifia Thu Oct 01, 2015 11:10 am

The politics of 'Kindness'. Heard that one before. As a political gambit, it works fairly well, but it's sad.

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Post  Atlas Thu Oct 01, 2015 2:24 pm

If a politician says he is acting out of concern or kindness - best check your pockets. They tell lies. They 'all' tell lies. To be absolutely truthful would not get them elected in the first place. Ergo - they bend the truth and spin the results in order to survive. If a politician tells you the truth (like Corbyn) he is either a martyr or a fool or a con-man who has no intention of getting elected in the first place but prefers to cause mayhem and watch his results - that means he is a psycho of sorts. it's whatever turns you on and as long as your getting well paid for doing it why stop. Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
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Post  cyfrifia Thu Oct 01, 2015 2:59 pm

It's sad when a concept like kindness is highjacked by politics, used as a buzzword and devalued.

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Post  Atlas Fri Oct 02, 2015 2:09 pm

It's a sad world. Always has been. You just didn't know about it in the past when news travelled at a snails pace or not at all. Politics ruins everything eventually but until we have a better way of 'controlling' societies we shall Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes have it to put up with.
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Post  cyfrifia Fri Nov 13, 2015 10:15 pm

Mr. Corbyns' reaction to the news that Jihadi-Jon has probably been killed was "It would have been better for all of us if he had been held to account in a court of law."

Good to hear this respect for the rule of law. In order to prevent any other mass murderers from being killed, Mr. Corbyn could be equipped with policemans' helmet and bicycle, and sent off to Syria to arrest them.

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Post  Atlas Sat Nov 14, 2015 4:45 pm



Corbyn's policy is that you should have change without violence. Therefore he would have to go as a missionary not a policeman. They would slit his throat of course - on video - but he would have lived up to his conscience. So that's all right then isn't it?

As for terrorists - I don't care if they are martyred. In fact so much the better. I can do without spending my money on psychopaths. Or economic immigrants  or jihad's dressed as economic immigrants, of which Europe will now have a couple of thousand waiting in the wings. Thank you liberationist European politicians and  Germans with a guilty conscience for further endangering my children's lives. Pillocks.

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Post  cyfrifia Sat Nov 14, 2015 11:00 pm



The mass killings in Paris might be a turning point, even the most wooly-minded must see that europe needs to better understand the situation and defend itself.



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Post  Atlas Sun Nov 15, 2015 4:18 pm


The politicians will only 'turn' if they discern that the people have turned. That will take some time. Meanwhile the problem is already here. Doors, stables, horses and bolts.

We pay these pillocks huge sums of money NOT to screw us up - not paste over the bloody cracks after the events, like a sad sack lot of money grubbing parasites who in the main couldn't give a toss for any of us once they have their grubby big bank accounts off-shore.       However -. The other bloody lot are worse still.
So where does that leave any of us? Evil or Very Mad Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
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Post  cyfrifia Mon Nov 16, 2015 1:11 pm

Where does that leave us? A bit worried really, one way and the other.

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Post  Atlas Mon Nov 16, 2015 4:10 pm

Well considering that throughout history very little has changed in that department your worries need be no bigger than they ever were - providing of course you were aware of the situation beforehand?? Wink Wink The people are dispensable. Only the State matters regardless of the politics employed. For a State to thrive they must have 'bodies' to employ. You are one of those.
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Post  cyfrifia Mon Nov 16, 2015 9:51 pm

I suppose you're right about the broad sweep of history, but the future hasn't happened before, and it does look a bit unsafe and unsettled. Quite a lot wants sorting out really.

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Post  Atlas Tue Nov 17, 2015 4:18 pm

Yes but 'man' isn't capable of doing the 'right' thing because he isn't capable of reading the future to the extent he needs in order that mistakes are kept to a minimum. In other words one cannot do right for doing wrong. Evolution has its own plan. Science can help but even that has its limits.
One mustn't forget God has a Plan. He isn't going to tell us about it because its secret. Which reminds me of the children playing in the garden when one says she/he has the answer to a question troubling them all and won't disclose what it is - because its secret -!!! In other words its all bollocks and she/he is trying to appear superior above the rest for her/his own ends. - Just popped that in to show that the universe is chaos and reacts to indiscriminate events - as do we.
Nobody but NOBODY has the answers to secure our future and those that purport to do the best for us (i.e. politicians) are fumbling in the dark alongside the rest of us. SO - Get used to it 'cause there's nowt down for worrying regarding it. Wink Wink Wink Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Mad Mad Mad Mad Razz Razz Razz Razz Razz Razz Razz Razz Razz Razz Razz Razz
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Post  cyfrifia Tue Nov 17, 2015 11:41 pm

Many people can 'see things coming', and have a fair idea what the results of things may be, but yes, it's an inexact ability.

The idea that "evolution has it's own plan" is a wider definition of evolution than generally used. Evolution is generally understood as a cumulative response to circumstances as they arise, not before they do.

As for not worrying, most of europe is a bit worried at the moment, but that's just a natural response, nothing to worry about.

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Post  Atlas Wed Nov 18, 2015 2:53 pm

You die if you worry and you die if you don't! So why would you?
Nobody can say with any absolute confidence what tomorrow will bring - ergo - every new day is a surprise (of sorts). Look forward to the surprise and just hope its a nice one. Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink
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Post  cyfrifia Wed Nov 18, 2015 4:25 pm

It's always good to see a new day, especially if there is a bit of blue sky, enough to make a pair of trousers for a Dutchman.

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Post  Atlas Thu Nov 19, 2015 3:36 pm

Is this Dutchman some secret you are keeping? Would you like to elucidate. A problem shared as they say-hmmmmm? Wink Wink
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Post  cyfrifia Thu Nov 19, 2015 5:34 pm

It's an old saying about the weather, "enough blue in the sky to make a pair of trousers for a Dutchman". Meaning it depends how you look at it, the weather may improve or not, there is, arguably, room for optimism, but look before you leap. Dutchmen of old had a reputation both for variable trouser sizes, and for negotiating hard bargains in trade and commerce.

I like old sayings, but, as far as I'm aware that's not really a problem as such.

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Post  Atlas Fri Nov 20, 2015 2:00 pm

I actually think it was a fashion statement. Not so the clogs. Having no leather to speak of wood seemed a good idea at the time. It was adopted over here. I know I was there. But having a surfeit of leather only our 'soles' were wooden - not so our hearts - Shocked Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing
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