Sex grooming: 9 more charged

Twitter bbc news is reporting 9 men charged with sex offences against a child. Is this a new investigation?

Hopefully, they will get them all in the end.

The original figure was 39 arrests at the time but only 9 were charged thank goodness the others are at last being charged because until it all comes out there won't ever be a closure name and shame them all evil nasty people

They have all been bailed, hmm....let's hope they are ALL still here in this country to face judgement in Nov/Dec eh?

Charly wrote:Just heard these 9 men were originally arrested in May

Yes they were Charly in total 39 arrests were made in May !!!

Official media release: 23 Oct 2012


Nine men have been charged with sexual offences against a single teenage girl in Rochdale.

The men, aged between 26 and 39, were arrested in May as a result of an inquiry into the sexual exploitation of a teenage girl since 2005.

All of the accused, apart from two, will appear in a series of separate hearings from 7 November to 6 December at Bury Magistrates' Court.

The men have all been remanded on bail, Greater Manchester Police said.

Hopefully not long before the rest of them are convicted now ?

Good to see some more progress in the police pursuit of child molesters. Better late than never.

Jimmy Saville was described as 'hiding in the open', similarly, child groomers have been able to operate quite openly in Rochdale (and elsewhere), hopefully this kind of people will not be so brazen in future.

If children see other children in process of being groomed, hanging round with gangs of men, taken to houses, being bought things, they are likely to think it's a normal way to go on. In the light of what everyone knows now, that sort of pattern of behavior should quite rightly attract suspicion.

hinch wrote:I heard on the BBC that it is said to be "completely unrelated to the earlier grooming trial." It was then that I got a strange, all-pervading smell of bull**** all over my lounge.

Funny, must get it checked out as I don't keep cattle.

Still, very reassuring to hear that it's completely unrelated. I will sleep much easier now!

[Thinks: Remember to check irony tag prior to pressing 'send' button.]

Rochdale course for defence of Islam and bring challenges to a standstill was advertised on the same night as charge publicity Hinch.  Back to the stock accusations of Islamophobia; political garbage smells in your lounge ?  

Rochdale Council of Mosques & MPACUK hold Muslim Advocacy Course to defend Islam’

9:04 pm, Tue 23 Oct 2012        The usual MPACUK windup gunk is built-in as the promo starter

‘The lack of action by Muslim community leaders has meant that Muslims are attacked, but don't know how to defend Islam, which has meant that there is a new generation of Muslims who are made to believe that they are extremists, that the Prophet (SAW) is a paedophile and that Islam teaches men to abuse women.   These lies need to be exposed and we need the defend Islam's honour, now.

In conjunction with Rochdale Council of Mosques, MPACUK is running a free Advocacy Course to equip Muslims with the skills needed to defend Islam in an articulate manner.     This is a step-by-step programme that will help you to:  - be a great advocate and debater for Islam,  - confidently rebut attacks against Islam that happen in the media,  - learn to spot and handle lies about Islam and learn how to debate,  - arm yourself with confidence and knowledge

Book your free place now.  Venue: Castlemere Community Centre, Tweedale Street, Rochdale, OL11 1HH   Date: Sunday, 11 November 2012    Time: 10:30am till 4pm (lunch provided you greedy gits) ‘    
 
http://www.mpacuk.org/story/231012/rochdale-council-mosques-mpacuk-hold-muslim-advocacy-course-defend-islam.html#ixzz2AKEkXdwZ

Articulate MPACUK advocates will thus replace silences, answer all questions.


No irony tag for here

Taz Ali wrote:
http://www.mpacuk.org/story/231012/rochdale-council-mosques-mpacuk-hold-muslim-advocacy-course-defend-islam.html#ixzz2AKEkXdwZ

Articulate MPACUK advocates will thus replace silences, answer all questions.

Is this course intended to train debaters to argue back against criticism of child grooming and rape? Is that why it's on this thread about another gang of Muslims being arrested for it? Sounds a tricky position to justify.

" Hinch wrote :

HOWEVER... this Castlemere thing seems to start of on completely the wrong foot by teaching people to defend Islam. As far as my stance goes, in no way is the matters arising from the grooming case an attack on Islam... apart from the usual crap from the ultra-right wing knuckle-draggers.
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Hinch: MPACuk spouts paranoia and started advocacy courses in other places in May-June for young muslims to “learn the tactics used by (their) enemies.”

They have shown they can unseat local MPs by their political brand of activism and I’m surprised to read that Rochdale Council of Mosques is partnering them in any course taking place here. Something iffy here, TBD!

Will this training and debating make Rochdale a safer place for children and for teens? Will any female Muslim debaters emerge?

I don't really think in right wing - left wing terms, Taz, but I think your definition is about right.

The problem seems to becoming a country wide problem. It appears other areas are getting the same problems of sex gangs and authorities covering up or not acting in the past.

Only what I have seen reports in the media in recent weeks.

It's been a countrywide problem for years now, but only reported in local and regional news. It may be people haven't believed it because right wing parties have been ranting incoherently about it.

cyfrifia wrote:It's been a countrywide problem for years now, but only reported in local and regional news.

Sexual abuses may have been a 'countrywide problem' for years, but there's a criteria to look at all the degrees and the many different types of sexual offences. All wrong, but never-the-less very different crimes.


The issue of physical grooming and rape of children by groups, or gangs, has not been known as a countrywide problem and overall statistics give the lie to such a claim. It is known that criminal offending in the category of on-street grooming has been taking place in counties in the Midlands and across the North of England, where it has been going on for more than a decade.


Things do look different when the focus is narrowed to crimes involving groups of men grooming girls on the street. In 18 child sexual exploitation trials since 1997 – in Derby, Leeds, Blackpool, Blackburn, Rotherham, Sheffield, Rochdale, Oldham and Birmingham – relating to the on-street grooming of vulnerable girls aged 11 to 16 by groups of men, most of those convicted were of Pakistani heritage.


The authorities will undoubtedly find this an extra stratistical inconvenience, but attempts to digress it must be adding, at least in part, to the denial rhetoric, or the silences. This last round of charges didn't even make a front page comment in the Mirror group's local newspapers. It is, yet again, a Rochdale situation and while the media, politicians, police, and other organisations can hone into various sexual abuses on their own or other turfs, I believe the communities themselves as well as the authorities in Rochdale should be seen to transparently be keeping their safe order.


We've been looking at the very worst kind of grooming taking place here.